Re: toughest holes

• oppy 65 Posts

  Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:00 AM

  danohi50:

  oppy:

  TarheelsRule:

  Having played both courses, my opinion is that BethPage on this site plays much more difficult than it really is.  Kiawah does have firm fairways and allows you to have the ball roll more but the tees that I am on at Kiawah (at the pro level) are not even the tees that I play there in real life, I play one or two sets back from there.  Kiawah can stretch to 7900 yards, you have to get permission to play those.  BethPage on the pro level is back pretty far and unfair in many places.  I would like to see them get courses that are more playable and true to real play.

   

  I would have to disagree, i think bethpage is as hard as it plays in the game. with the only exception being that they dont keep the greens rolling as fast as they are in the game as they are for normal public play. bethpage black is not unfair at all, in fact the winner for the open was lucas glover at 3 or 4 under par. if they were scoring like they do at winged foot then it would be a different story. bethpage is a great and fair test of golf, anyone who says otherwise is making excuses for poor play

   

   

  Tarheels is spot on here..

  You have to remember that historically  BP is one of the most difficult courses in the world..check the ratings sometime..I thought even though there are better courses out there WGT did a nice service bringing this course to us..most of us will never be able to play it..and the challenge of this course is fun...good # can be shot here when my thinking and timing are perfect  dont happen often for me  but thats the real challenge..

  shinnecock hills, winged foot west, pga west la quinta, medinah, and oakmont are all more difficult us open/ tournament venues

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• TarheelsRule 128 Posts

  Fri, Nov 6 2009 1:15 PM

  If you mean more difficult than Kiawah as it is set up on WGT then I agree.  Having played several of those courses I can tell you that Kiawah is not set up as difficult as it plays.  As far as tournament courses, Kaiwah does not lend itself well to a PGA tourney because of the limited viewing areas and the fact that much of the course is on the dunes and would be damaged by too many fans.  It was a great site for the 1991 Ryder Cup matches which at that time didn't have a great following in terms of people.

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• SweetiePie 164 Posts

  Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:25 PM

  Someone else will have to validate this, but I am next to certain that Kiawah was ranked the hardest golf course in America recently.

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• oppy 65 Posts

  Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:30 PM

  SweetiePie:

  Someone else will have to validate this, but I am next to certain that Kiawah was ranked the hardest golf course in America recently.

  yes, you are right, by golf digest it was ranked the most difficult, however i was not referring to kiawah island i was talking about those courses i listed being harder than bethpage. now, whether or not i think this is an accurate ranking is a whole different argument

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