Nothing else to whine about piz, it's all downhill from here. I can handle that ride. I'll just listen to all the other whiners now, and try to offer some encouragement. But it does feel great, finally playing from the tips. Have done several practice rounds on different courses, no problems at all with distances, just my normal putting skills, excuse me, lack of putting skills. LOL. Did someone call 911 for YJ, he needs resusitated.