Totally ComplexP, i am dinging it more then my old R9. And for further proof, cleared the corner on BPB #1, on a barely mishit late with no downwind. And on BPB #6, full back spin tee shot flew 301yds. Yielding 1 less club than usual for me. Nice club, and yes birdies both those holes after stuffing approach shot with easier (it seems) to hit G10 iron and a wedge.