Yeah I agree Lonnie, there are times when I need it but I rarely use it. I have used these Clevelands for about a year I guess and they were always backspin sensative. Today, however, I saw a thread that was a discussion about how the backspin was not the same so I played a few holes on Merion where I know I have to use the 100 yard and the 80 yard Cleveland on the approach. In both cases I applied a bit more than half of the back spin and the ball took one hop back about a foot and stopped. Previously, a half of the backspin would have rolled it off the green. As I say, I am not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing yet. I am just curious as to why the physics of the club have changed, or seem to have changed.