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Re: What is Dormie?

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 3:26 AM

  Ring a Ring of Roses and the plague.

  Many folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:

  1. The plague explanation did not appear until the mid-twentieth century.^[13]
  2. The symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague.^[16][19]
  3. The great variety of forms makes it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above).^[17][20]
  4. European and 19th-century versions of the rhyme suggest that this "fall" was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.^[21]

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 3:31 AM

  Argue it all day if get really serious accepted:) Plague still works as well as any IMO

  Connections to the Bubonic Plague (Black Death)?
  The words to the Ring around the rosy children's ring game have their origin in English history. The historical period dates back to the Great Plague of London in 1665 (bubonic plague) or even before when the first outbreak of the Plague hit England in the 1300's. The symptoms of the plague included a rosy red rash in the shape of a ring on the skin (Ring around the rosy). Pockets and pouches were filled with sweet smelling herbs ( or posies) which were carried due to the belief that the disease was transmitted by bad smells. The term "Ashes Ashes" refers to the cremation of the dead bodies! The death rate was over 60% and the plague was only halted by the Great Fire of London in 1666 which killed the rats which carried the disease which was transmitting via water sources. The English version of "Ring around the rosy" replaces Ashes with (A-tishoo, A-tishoo) as violent sneezing was another symptom of the disease. We recommend the following site for comprehensive informationregarding the Bubonic Plague. 
  http://www.william-shakespeare.info/bubonic-black-plague-elizabethan-era.htm

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 3:35 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  Argue it all day if get really serious accepted:) Plague still works as well as any IMO

  Would you argue until you're black in the face?  :o)  ...I'll get my coat.

• andwhy67 2,816 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 3:43 AM

  Dormie doesn't exist correctly on this site!

  An example..in match play, your dormie two, which basically means your two up with two to play and in reality you cant loose, the worst you can do is tie!

  But not on this site, tells you your Dormie, but you play extra holes, thats not 'Dormie'

  Mushy01:

  dormie  

  Web definitions

  in match play a side that stands as many holes ahead as there are holes remaining to be played.

   

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 5:28 AM

  PaulTon:

   ...I'll get my coat.

  But it's summer there:)

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 10:53 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  PaulTon:

   ...I'll get my coat.

  But it's summer there:)

  Did you see Saturday in the women's open at St. Andrew's?

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 11:04 AM

  PaulTon:

  Jimbog1964:

  PaulTon:

   ...I'll get my coat.

  But it's summer there:)

  Did you see Saturday in the women's open at St. Andrew's?

  Yes women's open though lol

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Aug 7 2013 11:13 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  Yes women's open though lol

  

• TimChurch 5 Posts

  Mon, Jul 7 2014 9:28 AM

  Paul,

  Well done. I've been telling WGT, for sometime, that the are using the term "Dormie" incorrectly. Your decription is spot on.

  How can we get them to correct it?

  A lost cause I suspect.

  Tim Church.