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Re: What is Championship green ? any help?

• Furkh 10 Posts

  Fri, Aug 16 2013 2:28 PM

  Hi,  I just had few matches with tour legends on championship green.After getting kicked many time i still don't understand that green all i was hitting way too long from hole or too short .probably i play late night when i can't store this green speeds in my mind.so, i'm here asking to ya all players help me out about this championship green any formulas about inches ups and down for championship green ?  and also does ball turn more in these grid or same as it was in tournaments green ?

• oneeyedjohn 9,589 Posts

  Sun, Aug 18 2013 12:03 AM

  Hi, for sure if the green is very quick, then everything is accentuated, the break, and the amount you have to take off for downhill.

  So for distance on legend  greens I use 25 % as the amount to take off, so a 30 foot putt on a flat green is gonna be hit  for 22.5 feet.

  Simply speaking for championship I take off a further 10%, so I would hit 20.

  But if there is any downhill involved then you have to take off even more.

  The putts that have break will break more simply because you are not hitting the ball very hard and therefore the slope and elevations will have more effect on the slow moving ball.

  Think of a championship green like a snooker table, and get a feel for how hard u hit that ball to travel 12.5 feet.

  Ian Woosnam used to practice his putting in his socks on a snooker table, a very similar speed to the Pro greens.

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sun, Aug 18 2013 12:59 AM

  30 / 20 is 150 %, very cautious approach. The tables which I use show 140 %, resulting in 21.4 for 30 feet. Both calcs should work for good approaches :)

  I agree to your statements concerning breaks. The less energy we use to stroke the ball, the slower will it roll and be more receptive to side slopes.

  Up and down is different. The energy needed for a certain elevation does not change, thus a stronger adaption is necessary on faster greens. Thus, add more than 1 foot / inch of elevation uphill, substract more downhill. My rule of thumb is "downhill, paranoia putting mode!".

  Special care towards fringe putts. Like uphill, you need to add considerably more length for the same extra energy needed, compared to slower greens.

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Sun, Aug 18 2013 1:04 AM

  It's annoying that you can't really practice this speed until you make TL.

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sun, Aug 18 2013 1:09 AM

  No TL friends in your CC? *chuckles*

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Sun, Aug 18 2013 1:34 AM

  alosso:

  No TL friends in your CC? *chuckles*

  You missed the word practice in my post, and when I said YOU I meant people in general.