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Wed, Oct 30 2013 6:35 PM (6 replies)
  • Crowfl56
    35 Posts
    Mon, Oct 28 2013 5:17 PM

    Ok once again this game completely baffle's me.  I just lvl'd to Tour Pro, handicap or whatever was 72.00.  I played one 18 hole round, had a tough time putting (very fast) greens and shot an 80.  So why did my average go all the way to 80?????????....

    Another frustrating thing is the very fast green, wtf is the stemp meter setting you have it at 25 ???? Please get real, There aren't any greens in this world that fast, and your tournament speed greens are just silly fast, whats the deal ?

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Mon, Oct 28 2013 6:24 PM

    You start to build a new average upon making a higher tier. Always sad to see that toughly-won scratch average go 'poof' and disappear, eh? 

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Mon, Oct 28 2013 6:27 PM

    You start to build a new average upon making a higher tier. Always sad to see that toughly-won scratch average go 'poof' and disappear, eh? 

    Next goal: break 66.0 average. 

    Good luck

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Tue, Oct 29 2013 6:38 PM

    Crowfl56:

    Ok once again this game completely baffle's me.  I just lvl'd to Tour Pro, handicap or whatever was 72.00.  I played one 18 hole round, had a tough time putting (very fast) greens and shot an 80.  So why did my average go all the way to 80?????????....

    Another frustrating thing is the very fast green, wtf is the stemp meter setting you have it at 25 ???? Please get real, There aren't any greens in this world that fast, and your tournament speed greens are just silly fast, whats the deal ?

     

    Very Fast greens aren't very fast compared to what's ahead. Check out the Game Tips section for putting tips and charts for green speeds. Once you dial them in, any green speed isn't that hard.

    GL

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Tue, Oct 29 2013 8:03 PM

    Crowfl56:

    Ok once again this game completely baffle's me.  I just lvl'd to Tour Pro, handicap or whatever was 72.00.  I played one 18 hole round, had a tough time putting (very fast) greens and shot an 80.  So why did my average go all the way to 80?????????....

    Another frustrating thing is the very fast green, wtf is the stemp meter setting you have it at 25 ???? Please get real, There aren't any greens in this world that fast, and your tournament speed greens are just silly fast, whats the deal ?

    The distance to hit a ball is fairly easy on all greens, judging the bias is the real trick, the quicker the green, in general, the more the ball will veer on the slopes. There are numerous tips on how to judge the distance for your putts but this works for me, but remember the final divide number (0.85 - 1.5) varies as WGT can and do change green speeds without notice, heck sometimes even mid round.

    For this example lets say we've got a 15ft putt with the hole 3inches above our position on a very fast green.


    1. Read the distance.   e.g. 15ft

    2. Read the elevation.      e.g. up 3ins

    3. Add 1ft per inch if elevation is up, subtract 1ft per inch if elevation is down. e.g 15+3=18

    4. Divide the distance at step 3 by one of the following factors:

     

    Slow ÷ 0.85
    Standard 0
    Fast ÷ 1.1
    Very Fast ÷ 1.2
    Tournament (Tour Master) ÷ 1.3
    Tournament (Legend) ÷ 1.45
    Championship ÷ 1.5

    e.g. 18 ÷ 1.2 = 15

     

    5. Add a 'get you into the hole' distance +1ft for uphill +0.5ft for downhill e.g. 15+1=16

    6. Use putter pal, WGT Caddy or a piece of plastic stuck on the screen and hit the ball 16ft you should be very close if you've read the bias correctly

    NOTE: This gets a lot more tricky on Tournament greens, as I now have two different speed factors, one for uphill (1.4)  and a different one for downhill (1.45). Also with the faster greens there are a LOT more anomalies, some holes just play a LOT faster especially downhill and you have to note them down and adjust for each hole.

     

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Wed, Oct 30 2013 5:54 AM

    Great job CJ. That's exactly the method I use along with PutterPal. Green Speed isn't really a factor until Tourney Speed then Champ Speed is extremely tricky to learn on downhill putts. Time, practice and all that....

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Wed, Oct 30 2013 6:35 PM

    Chinajohn:

    1. Read the distance.   e.g. 15ft

    2. Read the elevation.      e.g. up 3ins

    3. Add 1ft per inch if elevation is up, subtract 1ft per inch if elevation is down. e.g 15+3=18

    4. Divide the distance at step 3 by one of the following factors:

    ...

    ...

    I prefer to do the green speed adjustment (Step 4) on the raw distance BEFORE correcting for elevation. Elevation correction is strictly the distance 'energy' required to either get the ball uphill or that which gravity will add to a downhill putt. it's not subject to green speed.

    Doesn't make much diff for shorter putts but applying green speed correction to the elevtion differnce will hurt on longer putts

     

     

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