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Re: Pitching & Chipping

• Stryder1261 931 Posts

  Sun, Jan 12 2014 12:42 PM

  How about fixing the in accurate difference between Pitch's & Chip's !

  Ex.   30- 40% rough #17 St Andrews I am on tournament greens and have a 9 yd shot, I go to pitch with my 60 degree wedge (22 yds) and hit 45-50% and the ball goes 3 inches????  so I use chip next, full 10 yds, 30-40% rough still and the ball rolls 7 feet past ???  its like its backwards !!!!!

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Sun, Jan 12 2014 9:42 PM

  You need to learn all the wedge options. For the 2 examples you've shown I'd choose the flop option.

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 10:27 AM

  Stryder1261:

  How about fixing the in accurate difference between Pitch's & Chip's !

  Ex.   30- 40% rough #17 St Andrews I am on tournament greens and have a 9 yd shot, I go to pitch with my 60 degree wedge (22 yds) and hit 45-50% and the ball goes 3 inches????  so I use chip next, full 10 yds, 30-40% rough still and the ball rolls 7 feet past ???  its like its backwards !!!!!

  Where was the ball spin indicator set?

  What ball were you using?

  What kind of rough? Grass or fescue?

  At 22 yards as the Pitch shot rating for the club, no spin, 50% stroke strength will get you about 9 yards from fairway if the ball is level with the green, lands on the green, and the green is flat.

  Less than 50% stroke strength and Pitch shot mode, even less yardage.

  Sounds to me like the real issue is you don't yet know how, or when, to use Chip and Pitch shot mode. 

  For a 9 yard Pitch from 30% to 40% rough I'd be using the most lofted wedge I have and its 14 yard meter scale.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 12:11 PM

  The first bounce for either shot has to be on the green. 

  The Chip and Pitch Tips are invaluable. ----------->

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 2:07 PM

  YankeeJim:

  The first bounce for either shot has to be on the green. 

  Excuse me Jim: The carry must be

  Fringe or better for chips,

  fairway or better for pitches.

  YankeeJim:

  The Chip and Pitch Tips are invaluable. ----------->

  This!

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 4:49 PM

  alosso:

  Fringe or better for chips,

  fairway or better for pitches

  I beg to differ. A chip can stop on a fringe and if you're hitting the fairway with a pitch shot, you're using a difficult bump and run technique that is very hard to master and not the best choice of shots.

   

• Bruntski 43 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 5:13 PM

  Using the pitch, chip and flops all take practice and are situational.  I have found the pitch to be the most reliable result out of the fringe or rough (regardless of %) thats is no greater than 2ft in elevation to the hole.  Full BS EVERYTIME with the exact distance (give or take a smidge) depending on up or down to the hole.  I rarely use the pitch from distances greater than 18 yards.  I mostly use my old trusty 64 degree Z Wedge which pitches to 13yds.

  Chips involve too much roll on the green and flops require wind adjustments and larger aiming adjustments.  Practice the pitch's with full BS and aim as if you were putting from 2-3' from the hole.

  The bottom line here is do what your comfortable doing.  I used to flop exclusively, but have found much more success with the pitch.....remember it has to be full BS for the accuracy to show. 

  Just my opinion folks.  Hope it helps improve your game :)

• Chinajohn 1,190 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 5:22 PM

  Some 'rules' I was told early in my career and that in the main I still follow.

  1. Never chip from rough (of any kind).

  2. Never chip from more then 2yds from the green.

  3. Chips are just putts with an bit of extra oomph, you need to read the green in the same manner as a putt. (They fly 25% of the distance and roll the other 75%)

  4. Pitches work from the rough but you need to be close to the green but will land about 50% of the overall distance, after that you have to read them as a putt.

  5. Flops work well in most situations but there is very little roll (except on the very long flops 33yds + ) so you need to be VERY accurate.

  For me overall the flop is my short shot of choice, but then that's the one I'm used to. From longer distances 35yds plus I use a punch from rough or choked full shot from the fairway, but for me, choked shots usually end up short so add 3 - 5yds (local knowledge on the holes is paramount on this one though)

  NOTE: (before Courtney points it out) my short game stats aren't great, so take this advice with caution.

• filmslayer 2,341 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 5:24 PM

  short game = practice , practice and more practice .... lots of options ... 

• Wheels65 744 Posts

  Mon, Jan 13 2014 7:59 PM

  Please understand, I'm not trying to be a jacka$$ or a know it all  - You may have better luck with higher level Wedges.  Regardless, you need to "map" them to find out how far you can reasonably expect each shot to take your ball. I am nothing but an average player but I have mapped my wedges & know the chip, pitch and flop distances when I apply full top spin, no spin and full bottom spin. This really reduces the frustration with my "short game" - now if I can just 'ding' the danged thing ......... and putt  ; ( )