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Re: Fix the Alt shot lobby !!!

• Mankeb 32 Posts

  Fri, Feb 21 2014 3:01 PM

  SHRUDE:

  Mankeb:

  Yet, you and others here seem to just want to ignore fundamental problems by finding alternate paths.

  I spend a lot of money on this game and I expect it to come up the standards that I pay for,

   

  Well champ I guess we the drivers of said car have realised that the vehicle manufacturer built said car with materials that wont allow the infrastructure to be changed.

  The game is built on an outdated flash platform and your changes are fundamental to not just the lobby , but the whole invite system and friends list.

  It isnt a matter of adding a couple of nuts and bolts to fix it.

  WGT are providing for what its worth your moneys worth for how it stands RIGHT NOW. any future enhancement or rebuilds are not promised or expected.

  So you can keep your head in the sand or you can take the friendly advice offered to you to help eliminate your perceived problem.

  If you still cant accept that, then I suggest you read the WGT T's & C's and realise you are owed NOTHING and WGT is not held liable for the amount of money you decide to spend or not spend and no minimum expectations of game play or experience is outlined.

   

   

  Well, excuse me me for daring to criticize !

  "Perceived problem" ???? What are you smoking 'Champ' ???? 

  Players are trying to get a game of 'Alt Shot' and are giving up in disgust because the Host can't even see them, and it's just a "perceived problem"???

  But I guess someone like you, who would buy a car that won't start and just happily accept it as an 'infrastructure problem' , is pretty easily pleased !

  But seriously, this is a suggestion area, I made the suggestion that they need to improve the Alt Shot lobby, if you and other WGT apologists have nothing to add, apart from ill informed, insultingly  patronizing dribble, that has no relation to the suggestion made, please refrain from replying.

• Jcwelder 401 Posts

  Fri, Feb 21 2014 3:16 PM

  Hello WGT...  I would like, and think that a one on one option in strokeplay mode would be great.  Thanks.

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Fri, Feb 21 2014 9:41 PM

  Jcwelder:

  Hello WGT...  I would like, and think that a one on one option in strokeplay mode would be great.  Thanks.

  It's always been there.

   

• SHRUDE 5,835 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 4:55 AM

  Mankeb:

  and it's just a "perceived problem"???

   

  Absolutely. When you take the advice offered your perception will change.

  Mankeb:

  But seriously, this is a suggestion area, I made the suggestion that they need to improve the Alt Shot lobby

   

  You did. 

  It wont happen.

  You were offered a 'work around'.

  Want a suggestion?

  Apologist with ill informed, insultingly patronising dribble:

  you read the WGT T's & C's and realise you are owed NOTHING and WGT is not held liable for the amount of money you decide to spend or not spend and no minimum expectations of game play or experience is outlined.

• BubbaSauce 260 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 6:14 AM

  Your comparison of a car to this game is really apples to oranges.

  As has been suggested, there are work-arounds to the problems you've described. You can still play this game. If your car doesn't start, it's useless.

  Also, I can't see that anyone would ever spend anywhere near what they would spend on a car. The investment dictates the level of expectation.

  I'm not being apologetic for WGT, I just have a certain level of expectation when it comes to this game. Yeah, I spend money here, but I don't have to. I also don't have to play this game either. I am free to walk away. I play the game as is. If I find a problem, I try to work around it.

  Take the replay issue that was recently resolved. Replays were triggered in multi-player stroke play matches. To avoid the bug and still enjoy the game, I tended to play other types of games or I'd play a stroke game by myself. I had confidence that the WGT staff knew this was a serious issue and it would be resolved as soon as possible.

  The alt-shot lobby thing, yeah, it can be a pain, so just start over. So it took a couple minutes of your life that you'll never get back. If you can't afford those couple of minutes, then what are you doing playing an online game? And since you can start over, it's not as high a priority on the bug list as the replay bug was.

  What I find amusing is how you go from an issue with multiple work-arounds to "...an online game that is so difficult to get started is a major and fundamental flaw and is a sad indictment as to the contempt that the Producers of this game display to it's customers." How in the world did you draw that straight line?

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 6:51 AM

  Mankeb:

  It is Players declining that causes the Host to be unable to see who has joined,

  Not to mention a myriad of other problems. It's to the point if you're waiting for a 4th, one shows up and somebody cancels you might as well cancel yourself because of the resulting loading mess.

  Decline an invite while you're already waiting gets you booted from the game you're waiting in. Nice.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 7:58 AM

  BubbaSauce:

  What I find amusing is how you go from an issue with multiple work-arounds to "...an online game that is so difficult to get started is a major and fundamental flaw and is a sad indictment as to the contempt that the Producers of this game display to it's customers." How in the world did you draw that straight line?

  That's an easy line to draw.  As long as we, their customers, have a "work-around" to their problem WGT sees no need to spend their time fixing it.  Let us, the customers, spend our time restarting the AS game, or trying different browsers or optimizing their PCs, etc..

  WGT thinks, "They're hooked and they ain't gonna leave.  Screw 'em!  We got stuff to do that benefits WGT.  We got bigger fish to fry developing revenue producing features, figuring out how to cram more ads into the game, starting new games (MLB), launching the game on new platforms (iOS, Android), etc.."

  We are too damn accommodating of WGT's problems.  And they know it!

  We are "largest and most engaged online audience of golfers in the world."

• SHRUDE 5,835 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 5:17 PM

  andyson:

  We are too damn accommodating of WGT's problems.  And they know it!

   

  i gave up on any improvements to WGT after I saw the MisterWGT Interview, the look of surprise on his face when age old requests were mentioned "thats a good idea we should look into that"  indicating that nothing in the forum is passed on to him or the Product Developers.

  There are bountiful well organised threads on feature requests and existing enhancements that for the most part are simply ignored.
  (this one 12 months old and stagnant)

  Chad admitted in saying that this WGT game was built on a certain shell platform that really isn't able to be changed much and unlike MLB which is built on a newer more stable platform, improvements are very difficult to make, even the smallest  inherent bugs that we have all lived with since day 1(forum issues/ lobby issues/ friends list/  etc), are here to stay.

   

  WGT needs to be rebuilt, simple as that. But with the chickens that are employed there, we will be also scratching around looking for the smallest tidbit of existing improvements.

  So, when some genius with his newly discovered frustration rants and raves about this bug or that bug, (just like I did when i first joined) it is the die hards that can only offer their best advice after years of experience and that, is simply to help with 'work arounds'

  And then....  when the help is ignored and apparent justice is paralysed and all help is by "loyalists", threads like this go un-moderated & dribble on like a contaminated stream of fodder, turning into multiple pages, further clogging the forums with unnecessary bandwidth.

   

   

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 6:35 PM

  SHRUDE:

  Chad admitted in saying that this WGT game was built on a certain shell platform that really isn't able to be changed much and unlike MLB which is built on a newer more stable platform, improvements are very difficult to make, even the smallest  inherent bugs that we have all lived with since day 1(forum issues/ lobby issues/ friends list/  etc), are here to stay.

  Funny how improvements are made as long as they generate revenue.  Mulligans comes to mind as it helps us burn up hits.  PutterPal & ShotPal as well.