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Re: Course and Slope ratings for handicapping

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Tue, Jul 29 2014 4:20 PM (6 replies)
  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Sat, Jun 28 2014 1:02 AM

    Hi all ...

    As many of you know, I've been real big on getting a better form of handicapping CC members together for this game.  

    Back in January, there was a few handicap discussions where most agreed that there should be a standard "net par" (course rating) used for every course to determine a player's score differential.  Since there was no slope rating we could use, we simply chose to ignore the slope rating all together.

    Since joining a new country club in May, I have been working on creating a better handicap routine.  So this last week, I obtained the last full year's weekly single-round 18 hole tournaments played here.  For the "Best of Par" courses, I used the tournaments that were available.

    I then took the top 50 scores from the tour legends to create the "Course Rating" for all of the courses (from the tips).  I also took all of the scores for each other tier to create a "bogey rating".  Using these bogey ratings and yardages from each tee, I created a formula to determine the slope ratings and other course ratings for the shorter tees.

    Here's a link to the report for all of the courses currently available to the CC's as well as Cabo and Whistler.  The only course I was not able to rate was Pinehurst.  Once I have enough data, I will amend this report and add Pinehurst.

    To view the course and slope ratings ... click here.

    Since May, I've ran several mock reports as I made changes to my handicapping spreadsheet.  After completing my new handicap spreadsheet that incorporated the course and slope ratings, I am extremely pleased with the results.

    For those of you that are doing some form of handicapping in your CC, I think you'll find this method will work better than a "one course rating fits all" approach.

  • LesaD
    187 Posts
    Sat, Jun 28 2014 9:34 AM

    This is fantastic, Kat!  Thanks for all your hard work putting this together.

     

  • ForeverHackin
    2,311 Posts
    Tue, Jul 29 2014 11:13 AM

    Kat, 

    Any word yet on when the Pinehurst Slope and Rating data will be available?

    Sean

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Tue, Jul 29 2014 12:26 PM

    Sean,

    I asked WGTAdmin2 to get an 18 hole - single play tourney setup and he promised me "soon" ...

    well, we all know what "soon" means in WGT years, right?

    I have a temporary rating for Pinehurst.  Our CC has played it in 3 full rounds, and the differentials are in line with the other courses.

    Here's a screenshot from my spreadsheet ... you will want to click the image to get a full screen view ...

    It's not as pretty as the Excel Online course and slope rating, but it gives you all of the courses on WGT stroke play.

    I hope that helps, Sean.  BTW ... I sent GaryPinHunter a sample for your CC.  I just picked a month of tourneys and established handicaps for your members that played in those events.

    Your CC gave me a bit more modifications that I now need to do ... so thanks for that.  If you want to discuss, send me a PM.

    Kat ♥

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Tue, Jul 29 2014 2:11 PM

    ForeverHackin:

    Kat, 

    Any word yet on when the Pinehurst Slope and Rating data will be available?

    Sean

    It seems like I talked to the wrong moderator.  I just sent dbloshoe a PM, and he said it will be up next week.  So I should be able to rate Pinehurst once that tourney is completed!

     

    Thanks Dbloshoe!  You ROCK!

    Kat ♥

  • SamanthaWho
    3,403 Posts
    Tue, Jul 29 2014 2:41 PM

    I want to just take a sec to say how lucky New Haven CC is to have someone like Kat........and to take a sec to say to everyone how much she is appreciated.

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Tue, Jul 29 2014 4:20 PM

    SamanthaWho:

    I want to just take a sec to say how lucky New Haven CC is to have someone like Kat........and to take a sec to say to everyone how much she is appreciated.

    Thanks Sammi.  And I want to just take a sec to say how lucky I am to have joined New Haven CC.  Having a CC as organized as you are made getting this program working a lot faster than I even envisioned.

    You've got one of the best CC's here on WGT, and I consider myself extremely fortunate to be one of its members!

    Kat ♥

     

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