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Re: Shot Clock vs Swing In Motion...

• spy88 205 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 11:14 AM

  One I've been meaning to ask about for quite some time...

  Is it at all possible for all shot timers to allow a swing in progress to not time out?  This has happened to me many, many times and doesn't seem completely fair.  If I'm already in motion, I should not time out. 

  Anyone else with me on this?

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 11:29 AM

  What was the shot clock set at in the first place?

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 11:57 AM

  What difference does what the clock was set at have to do with it? The way some of the locations load slow sometimes, if you're playing on a 60 or 45 sec timer it's real easy to be just where the OP was. 

  I'd like to see the clock stopped as soon as you start your swing, too. Then again, I suppose there'd be a way for someone to take advantage of that or the greyed-out-menu-watchers would go ballistic. 

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 12:08 PM

  YankeeJim:

  What difference does what the clock was set at have to do with it? The way some of the locations load slow sometimes, if you're playing on a 60 or 45 sec timer it's real easy to be just where the OP was. 

  I'd like to see the clock stopped as soon as you start your swing, too. Then again, I suppose there'd be a way for someone to take advantage of that or the greyed-out-menu-watchers would go ballistic. 

  My thinking was if this has happened several times as the OP said and it's been set at 90 seconds, perhaps it's just slow play. I've played with folks who hit on the 89th second. Slow loading had nothing to do with it.

  While We're Young ;)

• spy88 205 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 12:20 PM

  CerinoDevoti:

  My thinking...perhaps it's just slow play.

  Overthinking my OP, CD.  I have no problem getting my shot in the air for all my shots with any of the 3 timers.  However, under a 30 or 45 second timer, there are going to be shots my brain requires a little more time on.  But I always have at least started my swing.  If I know I'm going to time out, then I let it expire and accept the warning.   And I've been witness to many players time out (to "0") and still manage to get their shot in...never happened to me.

  Nothing what-so-ever to do with slow play.

  WGT, care to comment on this?

   

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 8:17 PM

  spy88:

  And I've been witness to many players time out (to "0") and still manage to get their shot in...never happened to me.

  Its quite possible since your computer and the other player's computer are not perfectly in sync.

  While talking on Skype with the other player(s) in an MP game and one of the other players has their speakers on I can hear his game sounds in the background.  I've heard shots hit by him before I see it on my screen.   I've heard putts fall while it's halfway to the hole on my screen.

  The delay could be as long as a couple of seconds.

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Tue, Sep 2 2014 9:23 PM

  Spot on Andyson. I've played games against someone sitting next to me at work on a different computer and the load times and shot clocks are hardly ever the same.

• spy88 205 Posts

  Wed, Sep 3 2014 9:40 AM

  andyson:

  spy88:

  And I've been witness to many players time out (to "0") and still manage to get their shot in...never happened to me.

  Its quite possible since your computer and the other player's computer are not perfectly in sync.

  While talking on Skype with the other player(s) in an MP game and one of the other players has their speakers on I can hear his game sounds in the background.  I've heard shots hit by him before I see it on my screen.   I've heard putts fall while it's halfway to the hole on my screen.

  The delay could be as long as a couple of seconds.

  All well and good Andy and Courtney.  Thank you.  As good a explanation as any and probably correct.  However, I still ask that any swing movement started, stops the timer...not the striking of the ball.

  WGT, are you going to (again) not comment to a suggestion?

   

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Wed, Sep 3 2014 11:35 AM

  spy88:

  However, I still ask that any swing movement started, stops the timer...not the striking of the ball.

  Wouldn't stopping the timer provide an opportunity to buy more time during a shot?  Perhaps pause the timer when you release the shot, stop it only when you hit a shot.

  So the timer runs til the shot is released, stops when you hit, but resumes if you don't hit.

• spy88 205 Posts

  Thu, Sep 4 2014 9:03 AM

  andyson:

  Wouldn't stopping the timer provide an opportunity to buy more time during a shot? 

  Thank you andy, this is a very good question, and I admit, one I hadn't thought of.  I'm assuming you're referring to the possibility that if the timer stops when one starts the swing, they may whiff it thus extending the timer?  I personally have never tried this and don't know if it would work or not.  I'm not in the habit of looking for the "advantage" to any suggestion(s) I've made, only to the fairness to all, side of things. 

  If it is possible to whiff a shot and extend the timer, I clearly see the reason for WGT making the contact with the ball the stop timer point.  With this in mind, I drop my suggestion for consideration.