Hello Joey, thanks for your reply, you have answered part of my dilemma - it's those Starter/Beginner clubs I really would like to remove / have removed from my kit...not desperate about it , just find them annoying at times....unwanted baggage.....still & all if that's the only thing I've got to complain about then I suppose I'm just an old grizzle gut's....hey...Lol - cheer's for your input - johnno24241