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Re: Poor new RG list

Mon, Apr 6 2015 8:01 AM (8 replies)
  • derekortt
    derekortt
    673 Posts
    Wed, Apr 1 2015 2:06 PM

    where are the high stakes tourneys that were previously present?

     

    How about an 18 hole Merion with moderate winds and champ 14.5 greens with a 400 credit entry fee?

     

    Whistler front 9, low wind, champ 15 greens, 300 credit entry fee

     

    18 Hole Olympic, tourney 12, mod wind, 500 credit entry fee

     

    BPB, 18 hole, mod wind, champ 16 greens (need ultra fast greens to keep scoring from being obscene), 600 credit entry fee

     

    back 9 Pinehurst, champ 14, high wind, 400 credit entry fee

  • JoeMaverick
    JoeMaverick
    843 Posts
    Wed, Apr 1 2015 11:41 PM

    I would like to see some UEL tournaments too:

     

    - 50 credits 9-hole tournament

    - 100 credits 9-hole tournament

    - 100 credits 18-hole tournament

    - 200 credits 18-hole tournament

     

    I don't care about the course, green and wind. 

     

    Thanks!

  • Corwyn
    Corwyn
    2,410 Posts
    Thu, Apr 2 2015 12:07 AM

    FYI: the following list of suggested UEL RGs was submitted to Shoe (and passed along by him with the expectation of implementation "next couple of days"):

    Batch 14 :: suggestions for 1st half of April 2015 :: name followed by set-up and conditions

    Uneven Lies Cabo del Sol Back 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole ::  Cabo  b9 :: 50cr :: Mod wind / VFast10 greens / Default pins  / own-tier tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Merion Front 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole :: Merion f9  :: 50cr :: Low wind / Fast8 greens / Original pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Best of Par 4 Front 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole :: Bo4 f9 :: 100cr :: Mod wind / Champ14 greens / Default pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies  

    Uneven Lies Kiawah Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: Kiawah 18 :: 50cr :: Mod wind / Tourney11 greens / Easy pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Oakmont Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: Oakmont 18 :: 300cr :: Mod wind / Tourney12 greens / New pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies St Andrews Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: St Andrews 18 :: 500cr :: High wind / Tourney12 greens / Hard pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    They are now being changed every 2 weeks or so, and I try and maintain a balance of high/low stakes, and challenging set-ups. The 50cr 18 holer this time is a bit of an experiment, after seeing an accidental mess-up 18 holer at Olympic turn over very quickly a couple of months back.

    Note too that there's a perpetual b9 at Oakmont one that never seems to go away...!

  • fmagnets
    fmagnets
    3,640 Posts
    Thu, Apr 2 2015 3:07 AM

    If these go live today, Corwyn's UEL list will completely outshine WGT's poor offerings from yesterday. I say pay C a retainer for his effort, and get him to do the whole list properly every 2 weeks, because nobody at WGT seems capable!!

    Better still, just code a randomised RG generator like Joe M suggested in another thread so we aren't left with these dead periods when Shoe gets too involved reading the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy.

  • Jimbog1964
    Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Thu, Apr 2 2015 3:13 AM

    fmagnets:

    If these go live today, Corwyn's UEL list will completely outshine WGT's poor offerings from yesterday. I say pay C a retainer for his effort, and get him to do the whole list properly every 2 weeks, because nobody at WGT seems capable!!

    Better still, just code a randomised RG generator like Joe M suggested in another thread so we aren't left with these dead periods when Shoe gets too involved reading the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy.

    We also get a list most months (if not weeks) from flat game people.  I am struggling to remember a time when WGT get both high and low wager halves correct with the flat stuff.  UELs in fairness I never keep track of anyway.  This time around the low stakes end looks OK (save IMHO 18 hole 50 credit stuff), but OK generally for as much as I care to play.  I don't see how it is so hard to copy paste to someone there and say do not veer off........

    EDIT: What I would really like to know is have WGT realised that TL RGs never fill in a sensible time?  If so what is the thinking behind including them?

  • FarFoo
    FarFoo
    2,923 Posts
    Thu, Apr 2 2015 6:47 AM

    There is another thread about the TL RG's.

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/299471.aspx?PageIndex=1

    Some interesting highlights.

    FarFoo:

    Its not like getting a poor selection of RG's for all is a one off either, although the current RG's are probably the worst I have seen.

    Not rocket science wgt. RG's that finish fast are popular, do more. RG's that go nowhere are not , get rid. A good selection ( which probably does not  include best of p5 for 50 creds..lol) of 50 - 1000 credits should not be hard to come up with.

    As for TL ones. probably need to make them couple( thats 2 not 13) of tough high stakes to make them worthwhile tbh.

    So i would say lets see if you can look at the TL Rg's first wgticon & see how you get on........

    WGTicon:

    hey guys

    I know you all tell us the same thing - rg's are not fun but what you don't tell us is what do you want to see.

    -wgticon

    aichapman:

    Sadly myself and many others have sent list upon list of suggestions as a  reply to that particular issue. Just a week or two ago in a RG thread a gentleman posted a detailed half page of options and alternatives. Obviously yourself and those that set these games up didn't see it, as yourself and those that do the set ups didn't see all the other previous suggestions.

    This is GROUNDHOG DAY in the extreme.

    Cheers from Alan

    FarFoo:

    It would take me hours to try and track the success/speed of the RG's , if I knew that it would be acted on i would do it, and besides, YOU have all the data WGT, you just need to be taking an interest.
    Rubbish RG's = less games played.
    I would have thought it in your $ interests to get this right tbh.

    aichapman is passing on information & suggestions to WGTicon., although i am completely baffled as to how come they seem to have no idea about what RG mix is popular ( and makes them $ )


  • BigMike087
    BigMike087
    90 Posts
    Thu, Apr 2 2015 10:32 AM

    I agree. How do you not know which ones are popular. Now we're only offered 1 or 2 at a time?

    I don't understand? Do they want us to play Brackets or just play the 'ALL', instead of our Tiers?

  • WGTdbloshoe
    2,840 Posts
    Fri, Apr 3 2015 1:15 PM

    Corwyn:

    FYI: the following list of suggested UEL RGs was submitted to Shoe (and passed along by him with the expectation of implementation "next couple of days"):

    Batch 14 :: suggestions for 1st half of April 2015 :: name followed by set-up and conditions

    Uneven Lies Cabo del Sol Back 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole ::  Cabo  b9 :: 50cr :: Mod wind / VFast10 greens / Default pins  / own-tier tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Merion Front 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole :: Merion f9  :: 50cr :: Low wind / Fast8 greens / Original pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Best of Par 4 Front 9 Ready Go :: 9-hole :: Bo4 f9 :: 100cr :: Mod wind / Champ14 greens / Default pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies  

    Uneven Lies Kiawah Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: Kiawah 18 :: 50cr :: Mod wind / Tourney11 greens / Easy pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies Oakmont Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: Oakmont 18 :: 300cr :: Mod wind / Tourney12 greens / New pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    Uneven Lies St Andrews Full 18 Ready Go :: 18-hole :: St Andrews 18 :: 500cr :: High wind / Tourney12 greens / Hard pins / own-tier Tees / Uneven Lies

    They are now being changed every 2 weeks or so, and I try and maintain a balance of high/low stakes, and challenging set-ups. The 50cr 18 holer this time is a bit of an experiment, after seeing an accidental mess-up 18 holer at Olympic turn over very quickly a couple of months back.

    Note too that there's a perpetual b9 at Oakmont one that never seems to go away...!

    I just wanted to give everyone a heads up.  I made a mistake and sent the wrong tournaments over to be built.  The correct ones are built and ready to go, so as the wrong list closes out we will release the correct one.  The ones that show up tomorrow won't spawn new ones so hopefully it won't take long to get up the correct UEL RG's.  Again I apologize for my mistake.

     

    - WGTdbloshoe

  • derekortt
    derekortt
    673 Posts
    Mon, Apr 6 2015 8:01 AM

    Icon or anyone,

     

    any word on adding new high stakes RGs? We have like 1 of them!

     

    I gave some suggestions in the first post

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