A lil Dynomite, eff hole 18 !?!? :) . i could be 10, 11 under w/ 18 always in the back of my head , ive watched your vid Jay and tried that approach, works about 75% of the time for me, i always try to be right of the cup, but just last night hit a great approach was inside 7 ft & still had a triple bogey, champ 14s make it a lot tougher, but w/ tourney greens i can usually make par w/ the rare bird..