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Re: More or add more courses for Stroke Play w/o fees

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Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:37 PM (17 replies)
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  • alosso
    21,072 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2016 9:34 PM

    Problem is, regular courses would be bombed to death with our long-hitting equipment. Even Pebble F9 seems to be a tad short, imagine how a course without PGA Tour tees would survive?

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2016 11:15 PM

    MrFunnyWobbl:

    . . . Probably wouldn't have to pay the owners much if anything at all . . . 

    Many have suggested it's the other way around.

    The golf courses pay WGT for WGT to spend 2 weeks or so at their golf course making the 200,000 to 300,000 necessary photographs and collecting the needed GPS data. Then WGT spends an additional 6 months or more melding the photographs and the programming together so we can play 18 holes of stroke play on the newly created virtual golf course.

    They did the photography they needed to make Pebble Beach an 18 hole stroke play course the first 2 weeks of May 2014, and almost 2 years later we don't yet have the back 9 of PB to paly stroke play on. play. http://www.wgt.com/members/MisterWGT/announcements/default.aspx

    It is my understanding the front end process of making the photos, both on the golf course itself and from a helicopter costs about $300,000. Lord knows what the payroll costs are to then meld the images to the software. WGT is in the San Francisco Bay area where the minimum salary for a decent programmer is something like $100,000 a year -  plus benefits.

    We also know now that WGT isn't the cash generating cow many WGT players think it is, which is why WGT had to join forces with Top Golf recently.

     

  • JGCatt65
    23 Posts
    Mon, Mar 14 2016 11:43 PM

    ApexPC:

     

    It is my understanding the front end process of making the photos, both on the golf course itself and from a helicopter costs about $300,000. .

     

     

    Helicopter?... I'll do it for a couple thousand with a drone...~laughs~... a little grandiose with the helicopter dude...the main concern for people should be...what is WGT/Topgolf going to do when flashplayer is outdated.. *coming soon*.... THAT...will be the fun part...

     

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Wed, Mar 16 2016 1:18 AM

    How about release Cabo and Whistler to the free course list and then Add 2 more new courses to the Green Fee list. 

    Easy, Isn't it    lol

    -Roger

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Wed, Mar 16 2016 11:14 AM

    Cabo and Whistler are not owned by WGT.

    WGT pays the owners, TruGolf, a licensing fee to have Cabo & Whistler available here on WGT.

    Note too that Cabo and Whistler are computer generated graphics, not the photo-realistic view of WGT made virtual courses.

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:09 AM

    ApexPC:

    Cabo and Whistler are not owned by WGT.

    WGT pays the owners, TruGolf, a licensing fee to have Cabo & Whistler available here on WGT.

    Note too that Cabo and Whistler are computer generated graphics, not the photo-realistic view of WGT made virtual courses.

    Yes, I know that.  That's why they don't have any free Comps on here anymore.  Surely they can make a deal with TrueGolf to bring in 2 new Greenfee Courses and release C & W for us to play Free.

    Just wondering how many people are still paying the green fees now.  Are they going to be 2 Lemons just sitting there doing nothing.   Introduce 2 new ones, People might pay the green fees to play it...Maybe

    I didn't mind the Computer Generated type of look,  Not as good as Wgt courses but not too bad.  I didn't really notice the graphics after awhile as the game played the same way.

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Thu, Mar 17 2016 2:48 AM

    mantis0014:

     Surely they can make a deal with TrueGolf to bring in 2 new Greenfee Courses and release C & W for us to play Free.

    Just wondering how many people are still paying the green fees now.  Are they going to be 2 Lemons just sitting there doing nothing.   Introduce 2 new ones, People might pay the green fees to play it...Maybe

    You just answered your own question,with that scenario there's nothing in it for tru-golf.

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Thu, Mar 17 2016 12:37 PM

    Problem is TruGolf courses were never a popular as TruGolf expected IMO.

    They had to reduce the price early on ....demand was low....so price reduction.

    WGT has tried to offer for free to entice people to play them more often, and that seems to have had little impact.

    Now the holes that were in the "Best Of" courses have been removed, I would say we may possibly lose both these courses altogether at some stage. I have no idea what the contractual term was but they certainly will not be releasing more now. Remember Chad proudly saying more were to come?

    Like the CC Bank feature, "Coming Soon" means very little in WGT speak.

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