thx again YankeeJim....i played the level 50 something Nikes, hit some good ones, but boy, were my bad ones bad. Thats when i went to the forum and saw it was almost unanimous that the Pings(level59) were the way to go until 80`s level. My question, and confusion stems from wondering why the "souped up" version at Level85 of the Level50 something Nike`s is preferred over the "souped up" version (level83) of the Level 59 pings. That said, i posted for advice, and i am taking yours....i will wait for the Nike`s at level 85. I love my Level74 M1 taylorMade driver, but after a display i witnessed yesterday, i am jumping on the Level79 TaylorMade slider later today, only other coming option is the Calloway Big Bertha at level 82, doing the comparison it is not worth the wait....tyvm again for your help and knowledge....stevie1026