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Re: Irons Ping L83 vs. Ping L59?

• SlickHunter 1,034 Posts

  Fri, Apr 21 2017 5:20 AM

  I've purchased the irons Ping L59 before. Being a newbie, only tried them for couple of days, didn't like them and sold them back, and bought back what I have now. I want the Callaway irons at L85, but that's a while to go. I have these Ping L83 to try for couple of hours, but that's not enough to make a decision. I want the forgiveness on these compare to the L59. Which ones would you recommend? I will change them once I reach Level 85 for the Callaway L85.. thanks

• SlickHunter 1,034 Posts

  Sat, Apr 22 2017 5:00 AM

  I bought the Ping L83 irons. After few days of use, these irons just doesn't work for me. Went back to Ping L36, looks like I might have to wait for Max irons L94, with better forgiveness. I'm two levels away for the Callaway L85, give those a try when time comes.

   

• phred952 2,714 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 1:13 PM

  SlickHunter:

  I bought the Ping L83 irons. After few days of use, these irons just doesn't work for me. Went back to Ping L36, looks like I might have to wait for Max irons L94, with better forgiveness. I'm two levels away for the Callaway L85, give those a try when time comes.

   

  It can take quite a while to adjust to any new clubs, especially irons.  If you are having problems where you feel you need more forgiveness, does that mean your swing timing is off and you have problems hitting the ding?  

  The Cally L85 set is 4.2 meter speed, and  that might be what you need in the end.  L83 to L85 is around 43K XP.s   If you keep a decent daily CDP streak going and play a couple of 18 hole tournaments every day you can be there in a few weeks or so.. 

  The Ping L36 irons do have a much slower meter that either the L59 or L83 sets.  But precision and spin are much greater on the others.  You might think about a ball with a slower meter speed as that might help you get closer to the ding  Cally has a 3.5 meter ball, as does Nike.  Volvik has a 3.0 meter ball..

  If you do a forum search you can see how precision and forgiveness relate to each other.  It's good info to have.

  Good Luck,

  phred952

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 2:11 PM

  SlickHunter:

  Which ones would you recommend? I will change them once I reach Level 85 for the Callaway L85.. thanks

  
  
  Unless you have credits to burn, I would recommend just waiting to get to Level 85 and purchase the Callway irons that you're planning to purchase anyway. It can't take that long for you to get there, especially if you have a decent CDP bonus going.
  
  By the way, I think the Ping L59 irons are the best under level 85. I found their forgiveness to be much better than what they are rated at.

• SlickHunter 1,034 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 4:20 PM

  I've used the volvik balls as well, with little success, even if I just missed the mark by a sliver. I've purchased the Ping L36 again, instantly gain my confidence, and hitting my shots very well. I will try the Callaway L85 once I get there, but not expecting much. Other than that, I have to wait for the Max L94. I'm very satisfied with the irons I have now. 

• Kenher01 1,151 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 4:54 PM

  SlickHunter:

  I've used the volvik balls as well, with little success, even if I just missed the mark by a sliver. I've purchased the Ping L36 again, instantly gain my confidence, and hitting my shots very well. I will try the Callaway L85 once I get there, but not expecting much. Other than that, I have to wait for the Max L94. I'm very satisfied with the irons I have now. 

  Hi,

       Hold out for the Callaway L 85's & but don't go for the Max L 94's, Even though they are rated as High Trajectory they come In Very low/Flat flight with the longer Irons compared to the L 85 Callie's, you get away with them In the short to mid Irons but not with the long Irons

  Ken

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 5:17 PM

  SlickHunter:

  Being a newbie, only tried them for couple of days, didn't like them and sold them back, and bought back what I have now.

  Big mistake and I'm sure you're going to see that those 83s and the 59s you let go are going to be totally different than what you have now. The simple fact is you're graduating to a high lofted club and it plays way different than the Med/High irons you have now.

  You're going to see the same thing when you get to those Callaways-a good move, btw- but you're going to have to relearn your shots. High lofted clubs are the way to go but the learning curve is a little steep when progressing from Med/High irons. Those 59 Pings were state of the art when they came out because of the loft.

  At this point you, if you want to learn High lofts with decent clubs, you could wait until you can get those Callaways and learn then or spend $ on lesser clubs now. In either case, you need to learn the game with High lofted clubs.  GL

   

• lonniescott711 4,206 Posts

  Tue, Apr 25 2017 6:06 PM

  Your problem wasnt the Ping clubs its your lack of patience . You had 2 great sets of clubs and sold both sets back . You didnt give yourself a chance with either one of them . As YJ says you will have the same problem when you get the Cally irons as well . You have to take your time and learn the new clubs and it wont be in a couple of days . Everything about your posts say in a hurry I want it now  and its right now .

  You wont get micro wave success playing this game . Its either put your time in and learn or struggle along the way . Good luck with your new irons when you get them .

• SlickHunter 1,034 Posts

  Wed, Apr 26 2017 3:17 AM

  I totally agree with what you guys are saying. I really wanted the two sets I got rid of, because they came with longer yardage, and they have that stopping ability.  I played them fairly well even with 20-32 mph wind, if I don't miss the mark, otherwise it's nowhere near the flag. It's the forgiveness that's missing a little compare to the one I have, where I can miss my mark, and still be able to land it within 10 feet, most if the time. I've taken notes from all the tips you guys have given, and mapped out my clubs, so it's going in the right direction. I will buy the Callaway L85, but I'm keeping the Irons I have now, just in case, and will keep in mind about the Max L94, not being good as I thought.  Patience is definitely my weakness. My CDP is 77 days, and gone thru many clubs, but that's ok, I have fun doing it. Looking forward to try the L85 in a few weeks. Thanks again for the help.