yahoo is better than skype by a country mile . anyboady who knows there chat programs will know this . however , you can not make a private room anymore on yahoo . so for golfing sake ventrilo is the way to go , we have a ball chatting and playing wgt. i have met some very nice people over the last week or so . and we play daily without fail ...... download ventrilo and be part of the league when its ready to go.. if you like a good challange as well alot of the guys are master tier and more than happy to give tips to anyone who asks . my game has improved out of sight because of the guys i have been playing with . sorry for the long message but i have only praise for ventrilo and the guys who use it ...