Thanks you all!! I thought it was just me, 3 or 4 under is a good score for me, but I can see what your all sayin! I do find I improve and learn with every game I play! I really like Kiawah, and should probably play different courses, After reading everyones reponses, I feel better!! There are some times I'm on fire and others not so much ( just like regular golf lol), I just see all these low scores when I go to play a tourney I always check the leaderboard. I thought I was missing something!!! Thanks again all!!!! Sun your vid was very helpful!!