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Re: Please stop making every new tournament unlimited play?

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Mon, Feb 6 2012 6:12 PM (18 replies)
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  • KJHAWK2
    567 Posts
    Sat, Feb 4 2012 11:44 AM

    Endurance = unemployment, no life etc........

    A whole lot of time!!!

    HAWK

  • Steve442
    710 Posts
    Sat, Feb 4 2012 11:50 AM

    KJHAWK2:

    Endurance = unemployment, no life etc........

    A whole lot of time!!!

    HAWK

    Alternatively people could simply work hard and play hard.

  • KJHAWK2
    567 Posts
    Sat, Feb 4 2012 12:03 PM

    Sure.. I guess so.

    HAWK

  • TMcDonough1
    8 Posts
    Sat, Feb 4 2012 2:17 PM

    unlimited is the only chance anyone has against people who birdie every freakin hole. Just how is that done I would like in on the secret to this 54 for 18 holes give me a break, so either there is some major cheating going on or there is some sort of magic being done.

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Mon, Feb 6 2012 8:55 AM

    Yeah... the magic is called, in most cases, 1500+ ranked rounds.  You have only 60.  It's practice.  When I had 60 ranked rounds, I felt the same.  Now, I have nearly 550 ranked rounds, and I have shot a -14 over 18, and a -9 over 9, and I'm pretty sure by the time I get another 900 or so, I'll be shootin' those kinda numbers too.

  • Jerm65
    1,413 Posts
    Mon, Feb 6 2012 9:27 AM

    TMcDonough1:
    I would like in on the secret to this 54 for 18 holes

    Mexico.......back-alley doctor...........beta-version mouse-finger implant.....500,000 pesos

    (the Whiz-Ding 2000 is the model used by most of the elite players here, although I think suncity may have a black-market Aussie military version?)

    Either that or practice lots.  I've heard that the top players here are fairly good putters...if that helps any?

    ps: regarding the "unlimited vs. single-play" debate....you do check the scores in the weekly 18-hole single-play tourneys, right?  And you see the 55's and 56's being posted almost every week by the same folks who populate the top of the qualifier leaderboards?  Oh right, that's only 'cause they got good winds.  Nevermind....

  • thebigeasy707
    5,885 Posts
    Mon, Feb 6 2012 9:29 AM

    whiz-ding 2000 lol.

    ain't that the out dated version....

    whiz-ding 2012 beta version is out.

    tbe

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Mon, Feb 6 2012 1:45 PM

    Jerm65:
    Oh right, that's only 'cause they got good winds.  Nevermind....

    Nah, but I also mentioned that they are better than I am at this stage.

    If you put Hansworth, or Avlee or some of the others against Bollox 50 times head-to-head but with the same random wind conditions that one gets in single play tournaments, and tracked the winds, I bet you would find more often than not the player with the better winds won.  In the matches that the winds were fairly equal, I bet you'd find fairly equal play, but in the matches the winds were not, in the matches where one player had a significant advantage, I bet you'd find that player had the better of the play as well.

    Yes, the better players are usually near the top of the single play leaderboards as well.  But at the top, when the talent level is that close, the wind can play a drastic factor.  I used to play a few RGs a week, and invariably I'd score better on rounds I have better winds on.  I'd usually break even or turn a profit on good winds and break even or lose on bad.  I don't mind those odds when I am just investing ball wear-and-tear, but if I am investing my money, I'm not going to do it with WGT's toss of the dice being a major factor.

    If they did away with random winds, and went to a system of prevailing but not identical for all players in a given tourney, I'd gladly risk my credits in RGS and premiums again, knowing that all players would have similar conditions under which to compete.  And sure, over a number of games it may even out.  But, I want tournaments where I know that, skill aside, I am going to have pretty close to the same chance as everyone who plays to win, or I'm not investing money in it.

  • Jerm65
    1,413 Posts
    Mon, Feb 6 2012 6:12 PM

    thebigeasy707:

    ain't that the out dated version....

    whiz-ding 2012 beta version is out.

    Thanks tbe...and I stand corrected. 

    I wasn't aware that it was released already.  I'm like a lot of the others and avoided the 2000 getting too outdated by adding the R11 and Nike upgrades (which were both ridiculously expensive, btw!), so I haven't really been following the product-testing phase very closely on the 2012.  (ain't broke, don't fix it, right?)

    No matter, if it's the beta version, then I'll assume that MisterWD's worked out all the glitches and bugs, and eliminated that nasty finger-stutter everyone was complaining about.  Excellent.....

    ps:  Pedro is in the 3rd alley past the tequila factory, correct?  Or did La Policia force him to move again?  ;)

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