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Re: The Number Of The Beest

• cadillac1961 268 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 2:36 AM

  LOL. Thats not the right thema i was searching.

  Now.. but what tells me the small number over the yards if i hit the fairway or the next shot. The number over the yards are some feets, but feets are not required.

  Example, i was on the Backpage Black ,Hole 14, second shott 112 distance to the hole.

  112 yard, and over the yards was the number with 33 feet up bolt.

  But the difference too the uplevel can not be 33 feet,

   

  Thanks for Answering.

  Regards Cad61

• TheLighterDark 1,404 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 3:59 AM

  Hi cadillac1961, 

  A rough calculation to do (that seems to work for most distances) is to take the change in elevation, divide it by 3, and add or subtract that many yards to or from your shot. 

  So I'll complete your BPB example for you: 

  Actual Distance = Stated Distance + Elevation Change (in yards)

  Distance: 112 yards

  Elevation Change: +33 ft. 

  [Assume no wind]

  33 ft. / 3 = 11 yards.

  112 yards + 11 yards = 123 yards. 

  The shot will play roughly 123 yards. 

  This equation applies to downhill shots as well, except you'll subtract the distance instead of adding it (obviously). 

  I hope that answers your question... I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. 

  If you were asking just what the "33 feet" meant, that's your elevation change. As in, there is a 33 foot change in elevation between where you are and where your marker is (either uphill or downhill). 

• robdelahunty 670 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 4:35 AM

  Thanks TLD,upto now i've just had a rough guess,usually then find the rough!                 

  ty

• cadillac1961 268 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 1:59 PM

  @ The Lighter Dark

   

  I hope that answers your question... I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.

   

  You answer was exactly was i like to know. Thanks a lot.

  Regards from Cad61

• sssteele 1 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 3:19 PM

  I agree with your computations.

  I have difficulty with adjusting to the rough. 20-25% 40 to 50% how do you adjust for this?

   

  Thanks,

  S3

• TheLighterDark 1,404 Posts

  Wed, Mar 14 2012 8:16 PM

  sssteele:

  I have difficulty with adjusting to the rough. 20-25% 40 to 50% how do you adjust for this?

  Hi sssteele, 

  Adjust for rough is one of the most difficult obstacles to overcome in the game. Mainly because it's inconsistent, ambiguous, and, at times, non-existent. 

  On most courses, 20% rough and less won't even affect your shot (at least, if it does, it's very little), so I won't cover that. 

  As for 20-25%, it affects your ball very little. Usually I'll tack an additional 5% or less on to my shot, but it's typically not even that much. 

  As for 30-40%, the effects vary from course to course (I think the British courses react differently than the others). However, I usually add around 10-20% extra on my distance (for example, an 80 yard shot now plays roughly 92 yards). 

  40-50% is probably the hardest of all of the reasonable lies. Usually I add about 20-25% extra on my shot (so an 80 yard shot now plays 100 yards). 

  But like I said, it varies. The only way you can really get a hang of it is repetition, OR, the better solution: Don't hit it in the rough in the first place. 

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Thu, Mar 15 2012 1:07 AM

  Rough, takes a long time to learn.  Wedges behave differently.  Each wedge I have will behave differently out of 20-25% rough, 30-40% rough and 40-50% rough. 

  So the amount I adjust for in 20-25% rough for my 64, 60 and 54 degree wedges are all different.   Similarly for your PW, 9, 8,7 and 6i will all behave differently.  So do I use a harden fast rule, nope.  Only spending lots of time will you get a feel how each club will respond. 

  Happy hitting, and keep out of the rough

  Stinger

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Thu, Mar 15 2012 4:46 AM

  sssteele:

  I have difficulty with adjusting to the rough. 20-25% 40 to 50% how do you adjust for this?

  As you move into longer irons and deeper rough, the clubs lose their effectiveness, especially if you try to hit the regular (full) shot. Then you need to shift to the punch shot.

  Although rough generally decreases the distance, it also decreases backspin so your ball will run out farther. This means that some punch shots from the rough will play just as long as the stated distance.

  The quality of your clubs also affects how well they play from the rough. With the better clubs, using the punch shot you may be able to play up to a 4 iron (maybe even 3 iron) or hybrid from 40/50 rough, depending on the course and the exact model of club you are using.

  Often when you are in the rough you have to accept that it is unrealistic to try for the green. Then you should try to land the ball at a place you know you can reach but will still give you a good chance at saving par - for example, if you can reach a spot on the fairway from which you will have almost an exact full wedge shot left to reach the pin.