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PLEASE FIX BALL SELECTION DURING GAMES

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Fri, Mar 7 2014 3:22 PM (35 replies)
  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Thu, Mar 6 2014 7:37 AM

    CerinoDevoti:
    The CC Tourneys are weighted exactly the same in our stats and averages as WGT Tourneys as they are ranked rounds so the One Ball Condition must be enforced for continuity. What do you think, Plausible reason? Not trying to be contrary but it's the first thing that popped into my head  as far as how WGT might be looking at this.

    CC stuff whilst they are RRs it keeps it the same as the others. Allowing people just to swap at will (if that is the point?) in these would have people driving off with super distance, swapping in super spin ball for par 5 approaches and always putting with a black max super slow meter etc. 

    For practice there is no point to the rule, just a computer programme thing.  However, compared to new courses and ....and .....and.... it's low priority IMO.

     

  • chuddlymccannon
    298 Posts
    Thu, Mar 6 2014 8:01 AM

    I think there could be a fix to all of this

    Whereas, If you have balls with the exact same attributes they could be all put in a slot and then chosen at random out of that. 

    Some say, the one ball rule some say it is to encourage buying more balls

    wgt isn't making squat off of a player taking strokes with a free ball

    Maybe the programming is to complicated.  I don't know

    I did see a post about wgt not wanting to make a choice on our next ball.  I feel if given the opportunity to queue more balls of the exact same attributes it would not be wgt choosing the next ball.

    I could personally care less what color it was or if it had a tail or not.  I would be the one to put it there so I would have the option of only having certain balls in that slot or not.

    I believe it would only be possible like I stated before.....  with balls of the exact same attributes.

    And, once the ball was there it could not be taken out during a round

  • srellim234
    2,077 Posts
    Thu, Mar 6 2014 9:19 AM

    Cerino - I see your point about CC tournaments but I don't know that I particularly agree if WGT's line of reasoning is the weight of the play on stats. As it is they already have that variation when they allow CCs to set up tourneys from the front tees, standard greens and low winds, allowing them to count the same as a WTG sponsored tournament that has everyone teeing off from tier specific levels with tier specific green speeds and winds.

    Chuddly - I agree that balls with identical attributes should be allowed. Unfortunately as soon as someone uses up all of those balls they'll be right back here complaining because they ran out, again demanding to be able to substitute any ball.

    An argument to be able to substitute a ball with lesser attributes does not work either. Many players, myself included, can't handle a 4.5 spin ball as well as a 3.0 spin ball. Substituting a lesser spin ball in the middle of a round actually improves our game.

    We should be able to substitute at will in a practice round though. Combined with the mulligan feature it would be an excellent learning tool and increase ball sales as players use up balls learning what equipment and shot combinations work best in certain situations on certain courses.

    Someone also stated that WGT doesn't make any money with shots taken by the free ball. Not on that specific shot but think of the ball usage that has come from the current rule. How many players quit the round and start over? They are using up those balls before the substitution, quitting, then buying more or playing with a different ball before posting a legitimate round. In most cases that's an extra 30-60 hits for each completed round. It adds up in WGT's favor.

  • chuddlymccannon
    298 Posts
    Thu, Mar 6 2014 10:30 AM

    srellim234:
    Chuddly - I agree that balls with identical attributes should be allowed. Unfortunately as soon as someone uses up all of those balls they'll be right back here complaining because they ran out, again demanding to be able to substitute any ball.

    I believe if given the opportunity to queue more balls of the exact same attribute would suffice players. 

    If you then run out of them.  That is entirely not right and you have no reason to complain.

    I understand the rule, players can't be allowed to change the ball at random during a game.

    You also stated some other good thoughts.  I am sure ball wear is something that is very thought out and discussed often

  • srellim234
    2,077 Posts
    Thu, Mar 6 2014 11:49 AM

    chuddlymccannon:

    I believe if given the opportunity to queue more balls of the exact same attribute would suffice players. 

    If you then run out of them.  That is entirely not right and you have no reason to complain.

    Players know the rule in place now and have complained about it since Day One. I feel that unless the ability to load the bag with anything at any time is given to them there will still be complaints. They will forever blame WGT, not themselves.

    Checking inventory is an integral part of both this game and the real life game. It's the player's responsibility to know the rules of this particular game and stock the bag accordingly.  People need to set their threshold at 3 or 4 sleeves instead of zero and buy more when they get below that. I don't tee off (in a competition) unless I have at least 4 sleeves (one dozen) of the ball I'm playing. I have not accidentally run out of the ball I start a round with in the over 6 1/2 years I've been a member here. 

    I don't have funds to play this game so I have to depend on videos to provide the credits. If that means I have to forego playing for a while until my inventory is built up, so be it.

    Far too many people take this too seriously. WGT provides a game to play, a game that is programmed to their specifications and purchasing requirements. We can suggest changes but in the end it is not anyone's right to be competitive or to play 1000 games a day for free. Those privileges have to be earned in some way.

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Fri, Mar 7 2014 3:22 PM

    StormTigers:
    PLEASE FIX BALL SELECTION DURING GAMES 

    No need. It wasn't broken then and it's not broken now.

     

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