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Mon, Aug 20 2012 9:54 AM (19 replies)
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  • MartyBerro
    110 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 6:17 AM

    So sorry I didn't find any thread like the one which I'm opening here. If you know one tell me

    Somewhere I've read that playing at wgt is very close to solve a check puzzle. I know that there are a number of different solutions,  yet I'm eager to know what's yours, with your equipment and with your experience. All tiers are welcome.

    Get the ball 2 yds from the hole at

    hole 11 at Cabo del Sol with wind speed 11 mph/ wind direction 150° / distance from hole 86 yds / height 12 ft / green conditions Fast /

     

    my solution, I'm a pro level 43, is 88yds with deviation of 1.71 sticks on the right using  taylormade rocketballz ironset and a WGT b-xd ball.

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 6:25 AM

    MartyBerro:
    with deviation of 1.71

    Is this a wind correction? (Deviation is something built into the game and is different and not adjustable for because you don't know what it is.)

  • MartyBerro
    110 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 7:10 AM

    YankeeJim:

    MartyBerro:
    with deviation of 1.71

    Is this a wind correction? (Deviation is something built into the game and is different and not adjustable for because you don't know what it is.)

    Yep, that's the compensation you give to the shot to address the ball close to the stick. I gave that in sticks ( at least 7ft for the US golf federation), otherwise there wouldn't be a link between your and my point of view. 

    All you have to say is how many sticks (flags, if you prefer) you'd leave on the right to drive to ball to the hole.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 7:54 AM

    Mine wasn't a point of view, I just want to understand what you're asking, out of curiosity. Whatever works for you, the stick thing lost me.

  • MartyBerro
    110 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 8:24 AM

    YankeeJim:

    Mine wasn't a point of view, I just want to understand what you're asking, out of curiosity. Whatever works for you, the stick thing lost me.

    YankeeJim:

     

    Mine wasn't a point of view, I just want to understand what you're asking, out of curiosity. Whatever works for you, the stick thing lost me.

    So sorry, English is not my mothertongue.

    The question is how long would you move the target aside to compensate the action of the wind?

    I would move the target 1 flagstick and 0.71 of a flagstick on the right, otherwise my ball would land 1.71 flagsticks on the left and I would miss the hole.  

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 10:25 AM

    MartyBerro:
    1 flagstick and 0.71 of a flagstick

    This is what I'm lost on. The flagstick isn't wide enough to use as a measure so it must mean something different to you. That is what I'm trying to figure out.  :-)

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 10:30 AM

    Im wondering if its the height of the flagstick that he means. As if to lay the flagstick down on its side., and then move the pointer that edge of the flag?

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 10:53 AM

    YankeeJim:

    MartyBerro:
    1 flagstick and 0.71 of a flagstick

    This is what I'm lost on. The flagstick isn't wide enough to use as a measure so it must mean something different to you. That is what I'm trying to figure out.  :-)

    YJ - think of it as 'flag stick lengths' = ~7ft or ~2 yds. for a given club and cross wind, the ball flight will be blown 'x flag sticks' away from your aiming point, if the shot is dinged. My personal rough gauge is 10mph = 1 flag stick at 100 yds out; scale as appropriate for distance and wind strength.

    It's all very dependent on what clubs and balls your hitting, of course. High trajectory/spin clubs vs. medium trajectory/spin clubs will deliver differing 'wind drift' characteristics.

    Of course one can compensate for cross-winds in other ways, like hitting 'off-ding' early or late to compensate for wind at the expense of a little distance. For a 20 mph right - left cross wind, hit the 'dang line' at the right end of the light blue area either side of the 'ding' line; for a left-right cross-wind, hit the 'dong' line at the left edge of the light blue. It scales pretty good so, for a 10mph cross wind, hitting half way into the light blue on the appropriate side of 'ding' will work well.

    Me personally? I combine the the two methods, depending on factors like elevation, slope of green in landing area, and what spin I've chose to apply.

    p.s.: twominusone beat me in replying, but I tend to rattle on sometimes, lol.

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 11:27 AM

    Oh man, thank you both. It never dawned on me to use a vertical reference.  :-)

  • MartyBerro
    110 Posts
    Sat, Aug 18 2012 7:05 PM

    gr8flbob:

    YankeeJim:

    MartyBerro:
    1 flagstick and 0.71 of a flagstick

    This is what I'm lost on. The flagstick isn't wide enough to use as a measure so it must mean something different to you. That is what I'm trying to figure out.  :-)

    YJ - think of it as 'flag stick lengths' = ~7ft or ~2 yds. for a given club and cross wind, the ball flight will be blown 'x flag sticks' away from your aiming point, if the shot is dinged. My personal rough gauge is 10mph = 1 flag stick at 100 yds out; scale as appropriate for distance and wind strength.

    It's all very dependent on what clubs and balls your hitting, of course. High trajectory/spin clubs vs. medium trajectory/spin clubs will deliver differing 'wind drift' characteristics.

    Of course one can compensate for cross-winds in other ways, like hitting 'off-ding' early or late to compensate for wind at the expense of a little distance. For a 20 mph right - left cross wind, hit the 'dang line' at the right end of the light blue area either side of the 'ding' line; for a left-right cross-wind, hit the 'dong' line at the left edge of the light blue. It scales pretty good so, for a 10mph cross wind, hitting half way into the light blue on the appropriate side of 'ding' will work well.

    Me personally? I combine the the two methods, depending on factors like elevation, slope of green in landing area, and what spin I've chose to apply.

    p.s.: twominusone beat me in replying, but I tend to rattle on sometimes, lol.

     

    You got it. That's what I mean.

    So that there's no way on making out puzzles and find a common place to debate about them?

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