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Perhaps there's a method behind the update madness?

• renniw52 5,385 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 6:16 AM

  Makes sense to me PUH. Standard bottom line business practice. When you no longer have to invest a cent of real money, you are no longer beneficial to WGT. You go from an asset to a burden. Case in point, I worked for a company for 10 years, helped build it from the ground. When I reached the 5 million a year in sales mark, I got the company car, gas cards, AM. Express card, had my salary plus 3.5% commission, was able to set my own schedule. Living good, became the talk of the office, went from hero to zero. With all the perks, I made almost as much as the CEO in 2011. I started to get the same feeling that some of the Elite on WGT have now. I was called in and told the company needed to cut some of the expenses and I was the biggest expense, although I was responsible for generating 75% of the total sales in the company, my sales in 2011 were 8.4 mil. at a 42% bottom line profit for the company. I was asked to leave on my own, so they didn't have to let me go. I refused to comply with that request, lost the car, the cards, the commission, and was expected to travel 4 days a week developing new business. When I left they wanted a signed non compete contract. Hell no, I received no severance at all, could not draw un-employment because I left on my own. At the end of the day, if you are not adding any new, real money to the WGT till, then you are no longer needed by them, regardless of how important you used to be. They know you can enter a tourney with your stash of credits, play, win some more and never again add real money, thus making you useless to their business plan.

• Choppography 2,166 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 6:20 AM

  It's an interesting thought for sure.  However, it's just like a poker/casino site.  The "rake" is generated by the fish.  The site doesn't care if the top earners stay or go.  It only cares about drawing in more fish.  

  Sit at a poker table with 9 other top earners and you are the fish......YOU pay the rake for the table.  The casino only cares that there are a few of you at each table.  The winners will be the winners, and if they leave someone else will step up and take their place.

  You need recreational players that come back again and again for whatever reason.  (Not a perfect analogy, but not bad.) 

  Any poker forum has the same ongoing debate.  "You know they stack the deck to screw the winners and make them leave."  Or, "you know they give the fish the 'miracle card' to keep them around."  Bullsheeet.

  Renni is also correct, but WGT doesn't intentionally gameplan to kick these guys out.  They aren't employees with salaries, pensions, taxes, benefits, and many other actual liabilities incurred.  And, if I had someone generating 75% of my sales, I'd be retarded to let them go if they were still profitable to me.  I'm not going to find the same generation of revenue for less money, unless said employee is grossly over paid.  But, that's a different debate for a different day.

• oneeyedjohn 9,572 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 6:31 AM

  Interesting analogy Chop, but u are missing the point. We are not here to make money, we are her to have fun, and we need to be cared for , looked after, why not, after all WGT nurtured us to get to a high level and now they want to desert  us, I don't think so.

   

• TWOMINUSONE 2,580 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 6:44 AM

  It seems this crowd are gathering pace, and could be some real competition for WGT. There was a video placed on here a few days ago, but i cant seem to find it after searching. Take a look at this link below, and watch out for this thread dissappearing from these forums soon, lol.

  http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/perfectparallel/perfectgolf?ref=live

• xXxjasonxXx 688 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:05 AM

  TWOMINUSONE:

  It seems this crowd are gathering pace, and could be some real competition for WGT. There was a video placed on here a few days ago, but i cant seem to find it after searching. Take a look at this link below, and watch out for this thread dissappearing from these forums soon, lol.

   

  Wow that is some really interesting stuff there thanks..

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:07 AM

  Yep I posted a link to this company a few months ago. I have been following their progress over the past 9 months. Originally they were try to strike a deal with Microsoft for addition to their their game but then decided to change directions and go for an online game instead. If this does come out as an online gaming community wgt is going to take a serious hit. 

• TWOMINUSONE 2,580 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:19 AM

  Thanks Oldbay, i knew i saw it somewhere before. Just a question about that post you made, did it get deleted? 

• geraldlarousse 1,986 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:32 AM

  Yes, need to go to website, Perfect Parallel, just teamed with Trackman, the company that does all the PGA tour's gps, and live shot tracking. When this game does come out it will be crazy good. Check out there website, awesome.

  Gerald

  P.S. I will also say i see some serious black market selling of credits happening as we speak. I think the players with that kind of credits, would not even think about spending the credits that they worked so hard for on a avatar or golf bag. I just don't see it.

• Rockitch 1,022 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:40 AM

  See, WGT. That's what you get. People (and not only the ones you'd like to leave) are looking around for alternatives. I didn't know PerfectGolf. Never heard of 'm and probably never would have, if ..... you know what.

  Stop treating your baby as a milking cow. Hire some better programmers and start perfecting this game instead of the revenue. That's your only chance to stay ahead of the competition and survive in the future.

  R.

• TonyTurbo78 340 Posts

  Wed, Jan 9 2013 7:45 AM

  TWOMINUSONE:

  It seems this crowd are gathering pace, and could be some real competition for WGT. There was a video placed on here a few days ago, but i cant seem to find it after searching. Take a look at this link below, and watch out for this thread dissappearing from these forums soon, lol.

  http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/perfectparallel/perfectgolf?ref=live

   

  Interesting, this is news to me.  Watched the video, definitely going to follow its progress.  Looks like WGT could possibly have a major competitor.  Links was mentioned in that article, if they base a golf game on the links engine and add in all the mmo community features, a ton of players will more than likely jump ship.  I always said WGT have the fundamentals here of the best and most lucrative golf game out there.....if only they had real vision and drive.  A lack of ambition to make this the best is what will be the downfall of this siite.  Competition is good though so watch this space.