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Wed, Mar 13 2013 2:25 PM (18 replies)
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  • nolongerlonger
    2,813 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 10:14 AM

    What is the problem when you are on a hillside beside a green, the hill is steep, there is no deep rough apparent (showing no visual warning or on screen % warming), yet you can't seem to get up onto the green even after several direct strong hits.  With 50% buried lies in bunkers,the ball always come out.  With 50% lies in the deep rough beside fairways, the ball always comes out. Yet with good hits in previous situations ball barely moves.

    Can anyone offer assistance?

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 10:50 AM

    Give us a hole #, course, example.....or try the flop.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 11:41 AM

    nolongerlonger:
    yet you can't seem to get up onto the green even after several direct strong hits.

    It depends on the shot you're trying to use and how close to the green you are. By the sound of it, it sounds like you might have been chipping or pitching from too far away.

  • club578
    571 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 12:52 PM

    try the punch or full shot

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 1:06 PM

    I agree with YJ - sounds like chipping or pitching too far out. I got caught with this especially playing CCC early on.

    Looking at your scrambling rates read the following guide,

    http://wgt.com/forums/p/7840/49253.aspx

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Feb 19 2013 2:11 PM

    club578:
    try the punch

    Arguably the best shot in this game, particularly with wedges.  :-)

  • nolongerlonger
    2,813 Posts
    Mon, Mar 11 2013 1:27 PM

    YankeeJIm

    Do me a favor and check out my two most rescent replays.  Kaiwah # 9  two shots a pitch and then a chip.  (Par busting -I think I named them).  My caddy suggested a chip on the first one and I thought it was too far from green so I hit a pitch.  Then I followed with a chip.  Both flopped.  Both hit with good power and proper clubs.  Should I have punched from here.  Started to do that to begin with but I could not pull the trigger.

    Undestand you may be in Tampa so no rush in getting back to me.  Enjoy yourself.  Some things are more important than golf.

  • josephk2317
    873 Posts
    Mon, Mar 11 2013 2:03 PM

    Have a few questions after watching both video's:

    Pitch  Video:  Noticed that you used your Rapture iron instead of your Ping PW, was there a reason, or accidently forgot to switch to it.

    Chip Video:  Noticed that you used your Ping Tour wedge this time but still did not make it on the green.

     

    In both videos you were close enough (less then 6 feet) to have pitched it on the green.

    If you had used the appropriate back spin on  the pitching wedge in both scenarios you would have landed very close to the pin. I could not tell in the replay if you had used back spin at all.

    Happy Golfing!

     

  • ksinfield
    310 Posts
    Mon, Mar 11 2013 2:10 PM

    nolongerlonger:

    YankeeJIm

    Do me a favor and check out my two most rescent replays.  Kaiwah # 9  two shots a pitch and then a chip.  (Par busting -I think I named them).  My caddy suggested a chip on the first one and I thought it was too far from green so I hit a pitch.  Then I followed with a chip.  Both flopped.  Both hit with good power and proper clubs.  Should I have punched from here.  Started to do that to begin with but I could not pull the trigger.

    Undestand you may be in Tampa so no rush in getting back to me.  Enjoy yourself.  Some things are more important than golf.

     

    funnily enough the answer is in your question,the bit i have underlined.

     the flop is a very good shot to use in that situation

     

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Mon, Mar 11 2013 2:11 PM

    nolongerlonger:
    Undestand you may be in Tampa so no rush in getting back to me.

    LOL. Don't I wish. I looked at both replays and the pitch is definitely  the correct shot in both places, IMO, you're just not hitting it hard enough. Both were too far away for a chip although the first one you might have been able to carry the green with a full swing but then you have to deal with the rollout. (You could plan a chip to land in the fringe to slow down the rollout but it would need a lot of top spin, more power than you used and it's a risky shot.)

    With the pitch you would have carried the fringe but because that pin is so close to the edge of the green, you don't have a lot of room to handle the rollout without major back spin and a ball that has enough spin dots (Callaway spinner is cheapest good ball that would work.) A lot of players flop from both of those positions but I prefer the pitch because you can aim it like a putt that close.

    My CG60 chips 11 yards and with runout rolls to about 12.  It may have worked in the first shot with something like a 95% swing and back spin or I could have taken a full chip with the CG64 (7 yards) and added top spin to get it rolling. The key is taking as full a swing as you can.

    On the 2nd one a full back spin pitch, choked, is what I would have used. The CG64 pitches 17 and with back spin is very easy to learn partial swings with and the ball stops nice. I don't think a chip was in order on the second one simply because it was too far from the edge of the green to chance.

    I've never played the Ping wedges or the Raptures you have, it was always Satins before the CGs, and I've never tried chipping with the irons, just wedges. That's not to say they don't work, I've just never needed them. As for the punch, you're a little too close but back up 15 yards or so and I would be all over punching up. Hope this helps.  :-)

     

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