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Sun, Mar 10 2013 11:05 AM (19 replies)
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  • andwhy67
    2,816 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 3:24 PM

    Biker15k:

    Love the game but you have to wonder when virtual balls cost more then the real ones do.

    Callaway Tour iZ  $3.35 per sleeve in wgt

    Calliway Tour iZ   $2.25 per sleeve elsewhere

    http://www.amazon.com/Callaway-Tour-Golf-Balls-12-Pack/dp/B0033BMSQW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362812484&sr=8-1&keywords=callaway+tour+iz

    Please thik about those that ply nd don't make the money to spend more for computer balls then if we where playing on our own course on sunday.

     

    The only thing is, in real life you can hit your ball into the weeds, a bush or the water and find it and maybe some more along the way, on here, no chance, when its gone its gone!

  • MichaelStroke
    2,066 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 4:36 PM

    Even if I smacked one into the lake, I'd have no problem pulling a Happy Gilmore and jumping in to get it.  But hey, that's me.

  • thebigeasy707
    5,885 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:31 PM

    andwhy67:
    The only thing is, in real life you can hit your ball into the weeds, a bush or the water and find it

    hmm....

    I played St Andrews again last week (bagged a mediocre 79)....and one of the guys slam dunked his ball into the middle of this...(actual photo taken with my iphone). Trying to find your ball in that would be like checking for 1 head ice in a Jackson 5 Afro hairdo. (near impossible)

    he didn't feel brave enough to climb in for a looksey... in fact none of us did. i fell off a slope backwards into one of these gorse bushes a few years back and couldn't sit down for a week.....and was picking spikey needles out my butt for days.

    tbe

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:34 PM

    thebigeasy707:

    a lot of games on the net offer the free play versions...or if you want the better gear, or to advance further etc, regardless of which game it is, it usually costs extra just like wgt, so on that point.....

    Without a doubt a GREAT post tbe. A very objective post that is constructive rather than usual concentrating on the negative without any soloutions offered.

    Personally I cannot forsee WGT going the membership route as I feel this would limit the income stream (advertisers would see real numbers lol) and would deter many from playing or joining (but a good way to limit multis lol).

    As for PP,  sadly I cannot see this getting off the ground but they have some great ideas and would be an asset to have them with WGT.

    Edit - I agree the gorse on St Andys is plain nasty - my playing partner saw his ball deep in the gorse and there was no way without a machete of getting to it! Had to laugh, thank goodness he had played a provisional lmao

  • thebigeasy707
    5,885 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:57 PM

    alanti:
    As for PP,  sadly I cannot see this getting off the ground but they have some great ideas and would be an asset to have them with WGT.

    Perfect Parallel is a great idea....but great ideas need a real driving force behind them to carry them over to becoming a reality. In my opinion, they truly lack the Chad Nelson & YuChiang Cheng type partnership.....which is why PP is stuck in the rut they are and serious investors have already run a mile....because ideas with no-one to follow them through are just ideas....no money to be made there and PP's non web browser based stance was a hari kiri decision & hugely defining killer blow, not only to them but to any potential big money investors in my opinion.

    No investor in their right mind will invest serious money in a product, regardless of how great the idea is, if the aim is to target a minority of what is a potentially massive market....i.e the online community. PP wanted to raise $300K.......In the world of gaming....$300K would not even wet the bottom of the glass...just ask the WGT money men.....they had to secure $10million...which is in general the correct figure to develop a decent online game.

    WGT is so successful due to the game being playable via web browser....and it all ties in nicely with stuff like social media / online communities bla bla.  Even the newer mobile app version of WGT is fun to play.

    It would be a great thing if WGT could strike a deal between PP or their designers to develop new courses and convert them to be playable online / web browser based.....it would sure be a hefty improvement to Trugolf. Can you imagine Cabo or Whistler designed with PP's technology...they'd be awesome courses to play on.

    Having said that.....we don't know what plans WGT have in the pipeline and what the future lies with this game. Sure there's been some grievances and upset with some of the boardroom decisions recently but we have to put all that behind us and move on.

    WGT have done a remarkable job overall and I think there is better yet to come. I think the brains behind WGT still have something extra left in the tank. For a while I thought they'd taken the game as far as they could and new blood was needed. I don't mean that in a bad way.....but everyone has their limitations right? I'd like WGT to prove me wrong, honestly I would.....because it can only mean good things for this game. :)

    tbe

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 7:01 PM

    thebigeasy707:

    alanti:
    As for PP,  sadly I cannot see this getting off the ground but they have some great ideas and would be an asset to have them with WGT.

    Perfect Parallel is a great idea....but great ideas need a real driving force behind them to carry them over to becoming a reality. In my opinion, they truly lack the Chad Nelson & YuChiang Cheng type partnership.....which is why PP is stuck in the rut they are and serious investors have already run a mile....because ideas with no-one to follow them through are just ideas....no money to be made there and PP's non web browser based stance was a hari kiri decision & hugely defining killer blow to them and potential big money investors in my opinion.

    WGT is so successful due to the game being playable via web browser....and it all ties in nicely with stuff like social media / online communities bla bla.  Even the newer mobile app version of WGT is fun to play.

    It would be a great thing if WGT could strike a deal between PP or their designers to develop new courses and convert them to be playable online / web browser based.....it would sure be a hefty improvement to Trugolf. Can you imagine Cabo or Whistler designed with PP's technology...they'd be awesome courses to play on.

    Having said that.....we don't know what plans WGT have in the pipeline and what the future lies with this game. Sure there's been some grievances and upset with some of the boardroom decisions recently but we have to put all that behind us and move on.

    WGT have done a remarkable job overall and I think there is better yet to come. I think the brains behind WGT still have something extra left in the tank. For a while I thought they'd taken the game as far as they could and new blood was needed. I don't mean that in a bad way.....but everyone has their limitations right? I'd like WGT to prove me wrong, honestly I would.....because it can only mean good things for this game. :)

    tbe

     

     

    ^ <stands and applauds>

    Superb post and with some industry knowledge for all of us to consume. It's so nice to finally read something realistic instead of the usual "I want, I want, I want" garbage based on no knowledge at all.

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 7:01 PM

    alanti:

    thebigeasy707:

    a lot of games on the net offer the free play versions...or if you want the better gear, or to advance further etc, regardless of which game it is, it usually costs extra just like wgt, so on that point.....

    Without a doubt a GREAT post tbe. A very objective post that is constructive rather than usual concentrating on the negative without any soloutions offered.

    Personally I cannot forsee WGT going the membership route as I feel this would limit the income stream (advertisers would see real numbers lol) and would deter many from playing or joining (but a good way to limit multis lol).

    Wow tbe, that was a great post.

    I think membership would add to the Income of Wgt. Different class's of membership with rewards thrown in according to the subcription. Annual, Monthly or Weekly.. Bronze, Silver,  Gold or Diamond Membership.  This could be cheaper in the long run for the people who still spend money on here and also brings in the $$ to Wgt .

    The Top Wgt Earners (and there's quite a few of em)  playing would not spend a cent on the game.

    We have a forgotten Wgt Nation now... something like that, but with membership fees would be ok for me.

    You don't have to pay a membership and just like now,  play the game.

    With a Membership, maybe you can get added bonus's like golf balls thrown in (of course it depends of what type of golf balls....lol)

    Just a thought

    -Roger

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 7:50 PM

    When i was a kid my best friends dad was a successful used care dealer, I asked him what his secret was, he said to me, you see that used car lot across the street, he marks up his cars $3000, and sells 2 a month. I mark up mine $500 and sell 1 a day, "Do the Math"

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Sat, Mar 9 2013 10:23 PM

    thebigeasy707:
    Having said that.....we don't know what plans WGT have in the pipeline and what the future lies with this game.

    Another great point and agree that they have taken the game to a remarkable level, and hope the current owners or if sold, will continue to have the same vision.

    And I totally understand Steves point, and I agree balls are overpriced, the difference here is there are no other car dealers in this neighbourhood. Back in the day, an airline could charge what it wanted, a telco charge what they wanted etc but then competition was introduced and the real market supply and demand kicked in

  • thebigeasy707
    5,885 Posts
    Sun, Mar 10 2013 11:05 AM

    Steve2golf:
    I mark up mine $500 and sell 1 a day, "Do the Math"

    Stack them high, sell them cheap and knock out cars like they're going out of fashion was my motto in my 10 years in the used car trade.....and it's a philosophy you can successfully apply to whatever you're selling albeit from cars to cigars.

    Getting back to WGT......the cost of balls is only high if you're hammering away at this game night and day for 14 hours minimum like I used to.......but on the other hand, when I slowed to playing only a couple of games a day.....a sleeve of balls lasted me 10 days, so $6  every 7 - 10 days is damn good value for this site.

    I don't know what it costs for balls / equipment or memberships for other sites like TWO or other mickey mouse golf sites but I assume there is a cost involved somewhere along the line.

    I've only visited TWO once when WGT was down for an update one Wednesday night and have never been back since. It was awful, the graphics sucked and it didn't feel real in any way whatsoever.

    Like most things in life people do not mind paying a little extra when they are receiving a better quality product. I choose to play WGT mainly because of the HD graphics (which no other golfing site on the net has)...it's a WGT exclusive, of which I'm pretty sure they own the intellectual copyright, which is why there is no other golfing site on the net with HD graphics similar to WGT.

    Sure there's a few things on this site I don't agree with but I'll stay away from bringing them into this discussion because they have nothing to do with this discussion and to be honest they don't effect the game's play and don't actually effect me anyway. They're not for me but might be for others, so the choice is always there for me to take it or leave it....I'll certainly fall short of biatching about it.

    My stance on WGT is this....

    We have the best virtual golf game / site / forums / community on the net....which can be as cheap to play or as expensive to play depending on how much folks want to spend. To say WGT forces anyone to buy equipment is complete nonsense. Spending is down to the end user's prerogative.

    I'd like to see our avataars better designed with greater definition  to match the HD of the courses. I really like the definition of the avs on Perfect Parallel BUT.......because this game's web browser based we have to accept WGT's emphasis will be concentrated more on the game's interface loading speed and certain compromises will be in effect taking into account the varying speeds of players' connections.

    I'm a stickler for HD graphics....and it's WGT's HD courses which separates them from those other mickey mouse golf sites.

    Where do I see WGT in the next year / next 5 years?

    Who really knows? Real life markets can change very quickly.....Online markets & trends that end users follow, can change basically overnight, but I think WGT is such a strong product in a relatively strong position marketwise,  and the team behind WGT are net savvy....they have decent vision and will share the ability to change with the flow....ride the crest as it were.....but only time will tell.

    It's the strong who have the ability to survive......& WGT are in their 6th year of doing business online, so they must be doing something right....long may it continue.

    It may sound strange coming from one of this sites most outspoken individuals on ocassions....but I'll always afford credit where it's due. One thing I cannot fault WGT for is effort....they get 10/10 for trying....whether it's trying their hardest to give us a better game or trying their hardest to gather more revenue from us :)

    It's a challenge trying to keep both investors & customers satisfied at the same time but I think they do a fair job.

    tbe

     

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