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Sun, Mar 24 2013 8:43 AM (54 replies)
  • renniw52
    5,385 Posts
    Tue, Mar 19 2013 5:29 PM

    I still rest my case. Nothing else to add to this.

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Tue, Mar 19 2013 6:24 PM

    foregettaboutit:

     Courteneyfish, you pointed out that if someone registers for a tournament as a pro that they are able to play it even if they move up to a higher tier. This needs to be changed for obvious reasons. If a player moves to tour pro during the round he/she is playing as a pro then that is fine. But when a player is a legend competing against pro's that is not right, imo.

    Fore

     

    WGT has Month long Free Tourneys. I sign up for each one on the first of the month and then decide if I feel like playing in them or not. This player could have signed up on the first, then once they zoomed up to Legend, went back and played from the kiddie tees so they could take credits and feed their ego. It happens all the time here. The one good thing about the Free Tourneys is we're not wagering our own credits to enter, we're trying to win credits on offer. In my mind there's a huge difference.

    Renni makes a good point about playing at your own risk. If you dare, you have a chance to win. Or, get taken because of being naive. It's up to the player. As for mutli's, I don't worry as much as some others here. I'm not getting taken because I won't let it happen.

  • foregettaboutit
    227 Posts
    Tue, Mar 19 2013 6:43 PM

    Cerino, the tournament this player is currently leading is not a free tourney. It is a month long tourney for credits where the leader will earn 4,000 credits!

    Its funny that there has been no comment from icon or any other member of wgt. However if heaven forbid someone breaks one of the precious forum rules, wgt will act swiftly and take care of it.

    Fore

    P.S. I agree to play at your own risk for credits. I'm not upset bc i lost to the guy. I actually beat him a few days ago in a mpc. I don't even feel too bad for legends or tour legends that fell victim to the guy bc as a legend you should be aware of these guys exc.. It is the lower level players like pros who are still learning the game that should not be taken advantage of by an obvious multi, imo.

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Tue, Mar 19 2013 6:57 PM

    foregettaboutit:

    Cerino, the tournament this player is currently leading is not a free tourney. It is a month long tourney for credits where the leader will earn 4,000 credits!

    Its funny that there has been no comment from icon or any other member of wgt. However if heaven forbid someone breaks one of the precious forum rules, wgt will act swiftly and take care of it.

    Fore

    P.S. I agree to play at your own risk for credits. I'm not upset bc i lost to the guy. I actually beat him a few days ago in a mpc. I don't even feel too bad for legends or tour legends that felt victim to the guy bc as a legend you should be aware of these guys exc.. It is the lower level players like pros who are still learning the game that should not be taken advantage of, imo.

     

    Just an FYI, I have a friend who's a TM and he ended up winning a weekly and one RG because WGT DQ'd the players in front of him on the leaderboard. They are looking at players before they pay out.

  • WGTicon
    12,511 Posts
    Tue, Mar 19 2013 7:05 PM

    thanks everyone,

    we'll look into it.

    -wgticon

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 2:27 AM

    Steve2golf you need to think and soak in what you read before jumping on people's cases:  (I cant quote as page 3 has gone funny)

    But If you had read paragraph 1 as you quoted you would have realized I was not on about this guy but other multy account players who have done this IN GENERAL.  as i cant edit or reply to page 3 here's the just of it "score 58 on thier first day like A LOT OF THESE MULTY's DO"

    Oh lets not forget paragraph 3 & 4 where i said "doesn't your level go up but not average in PRACTICE ROUNDS"

    Your answer was that i have been here long enough to know the answer is NO.  Well m8, your the one who is WRONG.  I just played a par 3 practice round off baby tees and what do you know, I got the experience points meaning MY LEVEL WILL GO UP.  So as i said SOAK IN WHAT IS SAID FIRST, take a deep breath before answering.

    I'll finish by replying "how can you make up what's there in some one's profile how can what WGT sets as score history, stats etc etc be lies???

  • MainzMan
    9,591 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 3:34 AM

    chrisironsbones:

    (I cant quote as page 3 has gone funny)

    Looks like everything's going funny round here.  I wanted to quote tbe mentioning that the new gear is perfect for multi's.  He's absolutely right in my opinion, those stupid level up bars are a dream for anyone wanting to start a new account and get access to good gear straight away.  Obviously there's a fair cost involved but if they play smart they can more than recover their money through RG's and matchplay for credits.

    At the end of the day they are taking credits away from honest players, either by beating them in MP or bringing their AK47 to the local water pistol fight in the low tier tourneys and RG's.

    I'm with you Chris, people like this are taking the piss out of everyone else, it would be nice to see something finally done to combat them.

    Maybe that's a bit optomistic though, it seems there is little that can be done to stop them.

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 4:27 AM

    chrisironsbones:

    Steve2golf you need to think and soak in what you read before jumping on people's cases:  (I cant quote as page 3 has gone funny)

    But If you had read paragraph 1 as you quoted you would have realized I was not on about this guy but other multy account players who have done this IN GENERAL.  as i cant edit or reply to page 3 here's the just of it "score 58 on thier first day like A LOT OF THESE MULTY's DO"

    Oh lets not forget paragraph 3 & 4 where i said "doesn't your level go up but not average in PRACTICE ROUNDS"

    Your answer was that i have been here long enough to know the answer is NO.  Well m8, your the one who is WRONG.  I just played a par 3 practice round off baby tees and what do you know, I got the experience points meaning MY LEVEL WILL GO UP.  So as i said SOAK IN WHAT IS SAID FIRST, take a deep breath before answering.

    I'll finish by replying "how can you make up what's there in some one's profile how can what WGT sets as score history, stats etc etc be lies???

    That's why I said you were twisting the facts, if you did not mean the subject account, you should of said so "CLEARLY" . You did in FACT make the statement in the context of this account. You cannot and should not toss these allegations around lightly.

    I play practice rounds each and every day, and never finish them out completely. And again  I believe you know that is the case, but choose to ignore, you only get the points if you finish them. IN FACT this account could of played each and everyday and all day without getting even 1 single experience point. ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. Is it likely NO, but possible YES.

    My point is you took this player and made tremendous allegations without any facts, any data you did gather you twisted to suit your allegations.

    Rather than state he beat players of low ability in higher tiers FACT, you stated he beat "player after player" That is a play and a twist meant to confuse rather than educate.

    You said the account was dormant, when it may not of been, you have absolutely no way to determine that statement to be true, that is why I said leave this to WGT, they have the tools, you sir do not.

    Look if you find something suspicious, great, report it to WGT, they have the tools and the expertise to deal with the issue. Let them do their job.

    Running to the forums to lynch anyone is not the appropriate manner in which to deal with this.

    WGT representatives have time and time again suggested what must be done when you suspect a multi, JUST DO IT.

  • PUHOLINO
    1,189 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 9:52 AM

    Steve2golf:
    My point is you took this player and made tremendous allegations without any facts, any data you did gather you twisted to suit your allegations

     

    Been staying out of it until now, but we need to make something clear. 'Weed lover' 'this sport' 'a 3 digit number' was created through a string of 'invites to join' from 'Weed lover' 'this sport' ' CHICK and 'Weed lover' JOKER 'this sport' ' during early summer. Both IDs have since been disabled (can no longer be found through players search). Unfortunately we can no longer see that far in activities, since they were cut to mid August in mid September. But you have my 100% guarantee (for what it's worth), they were created through a string of 'join WGT' invites. This string continued over someone who 'crushed tiers 74 times' , 'the Skies were Starry', etc. all the way to the star of this thread

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/159953.aspx

    and skeleton 'this sport'. The last 2 were both disabled on the same day and the 'weed lover's' ID started showing signs of life on that same day. So did the demonof 'this sport'.

    These are not speculations, but facts that are evident (or were evident in some cases, before the activities were cut) from activites. Of course, you have every right to believe it's infact a group of over 20 different people, who are all friends and invited each other to join, have the same playing style and M.O. share clusters of similar names and like playing alt shots with the same 2 longer term IDs. I choose not to.

    Here the facts stop and educated guesses begin. After March 6th (the day the last 2 got banned ( I'm guessing before they transferred credits),  he had to stock up the next in line, so he used an older ID (to be safer from persecution). So the weed lover started playing MPCs to equip himself, the demonic one played 2 pro RGs to gift him a 3w and he was equipped for RGs. He's only playing MPCs as a legend to get enough credits to fund 'the demonic one's' clubs and career to continue the cycle. A few othe friends are already waiting down the line.

    Like I said, the previous paragraph is all speculation, but IMO a well founded one, considering his previous actions. But everything above that are pure facts.

    P.S. I also played an MPCs with him a few days back. I wish I knew how to take screenshots, cause the chat was funny. Especially after I expressed condolences (faked sincerity a bit, lol) about the 2 recently disabled IDs and dropped a few future names and wished more luck with them. Turned my 'guesses' into facts right there. And I really enjoyed winning his credits. They were already used for gifting my CC friends (a bunch of great honest guys).

  • Reno41
    2 Posts
    Thu, Mar 21 2013 8:15 AM

    Some of the credit for Multi-Accounts should go to WGT!!.  for example, if you started back in early 2008, like i did, and played several months before the first/second/third/and on upgrade occured, and had good stats, then you were automatically ranked as a Legend from day one, with no chance of playing through the ranks to earn credits.  No, you had to compete with Tibbets, Dansamcan, BiB, etc. for credits...really!  They were playing for free while you were paying for WGT upgrades...and by the way, it still says "Beta" version!!  

    The game is still inconsistent, controlled by WGT, and the server is too small!!

    Good Bye All, and Kiss My Azz WGT!!

     

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