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ball durability and putts....

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Apr 18 2013 12:34 AM

  Steven1163:

  I dont mean to sound stupid...but is there an actual known number of how many hits u get with one ball?

  There have been several charts posted regarding ball type vs hits...you'd have to do a search to drag them up...but rough 80 to 120 seems to be the norm ...i/e 80 hits for lowest durability..120 for highest

• alosso 21,073 Posts

  Thu, Apr 18 2013 7:48 AM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  On CTTH Putting it does effect the ball durability but it is nominal.

  I was never luckier to contradict you - today's test of four putting CTTHs = 36 shots showed no visual reduction in ball life.

• forcefan 279 Posts

  Sat, Apr 20 2013 12:30 AM

  The following ball durability chart chart was compiled earlier this year by a few members of The Peoples Club:

   

  Brand	Ball	Level-Tier	Credits per Sleeve	Durability	Hits*	9-hole round per ball**	Credits per 9-hole round
  Callaway	Tour i(s)	33+	250	2.5	120	5.70	14.62
  Callaway	Tour i(s)	Legend+	250	2.0	100	4.66	17.88
  Callaway	Tour i(z)	35+	300	2.5	120	5.70	17.54
  Callaway	Tour i(z)	Legend+	300	2.0	100	4.66	21.01
  Callaway	Tour i(z) Slow Meter	1+	300	2.5
  Callaway	Tour i(z) Slow Meter	34+	450	2.5
  MAX	Slow Meter	Hack+	450	2.0
  MAX	Slow Meter	Pro+	600	2.0
  Nike	20XI-S	47+	400	2.5	120	5.71	23.35
  Nike	20XI-S	70+	450	2.5
  Nike	20XI-X	48+	400	2.5	118	5.62	23.72
  Nike	20XI-X	71+	450	2.5
  Srixon	Z-STAR	11+	180	2.5	120	5.71	10.5
  Srixon	Z-STAR XV	13+	200	2.5	120	5.71	11.67
  Brand	Ball	Level-Tier	Credits per Sleeve	Durability	Hits*	9-hole round per ball**	Credits per 9-hole round
  WGT	B-ES	Any	10	2.0	125	5.95	0.56
  WGT	B-XD	Any	10	2.5	150	7.14	0.47
  WGT	Tour-S	Any	43	1.5	100	4.76	3.01
  WGT	GI-S	Any	44	2.0	120	5.70	2.57
  WGT	GI-D	Any	49	2.0
  WGT	GI2-S	Any	64	2.0	125	5.95	3.59
  WGT	GI2-D	Any	64	1.5
  WGT	Tour-SD	Any	65	1.5	110	5.24	4.13
  WGT	Tour GI-S	Any	82	1.0	90	4.28	6.37
  WGT	Tour GI-SD	Any	112	1.0	90	4.28	8.72
  WGT	GI3-S	Any	99	2.0	125	6.00	5.5
  WGT	GI3-D	Any	94	1.5	110	5.24	6.0
  WGT	GI-SD2	Legend+	120	1.0
  WGT	GI2-SD2	Legend+	155	1.5	95	4.52	11.43
  WGT	Starter Slow Meter	Any	100	1.0

   

  * Putts do not count as hits & are not included, except putts from the fringe.

  ** Calculated based on 21 hits per 9-hole round (par 36 with 67% green-in-regulation).

   

  There are a few empty fields and the new Nike balls aren't listed, but I can atest to the accuracy of the statistics.

  As you can see, dots of durability as provided by WGT can be a bit inaccurate. 

  Rich

• alosso 21,073 Posts

  Sat, Apr 20 2013 1:15 AM

  Lovely work folks!

  Yet still no numbers on the MAX balls - I'm too curious...

• TWOMINUSONE 2,580 Posts

  Sat, Apr 20 2013 1:42 AM

  Read Icons post here, i remember it was said that the putts would not count somewhere, and it was fixed. I just cant find it at the mo:

  http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/114805/749302.aspx#749302

• TWOMINUSONE 2,580 Posts

  Sat, Apr 20 2013 1:47 AM

  And WGTniblicks post here:

  http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/114485.aspx?PageIndex=3

• alosso 21,073 Posts

  Sat, Apr 20 2013 2:11 AM

  TWOMINUSONE:

  Read Icons post here, i remember it was said that the putts would not count somewhere, and it was fixed. I just cant find it at the mo:

  http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/114805/749302.aspx#749302

  Thanks for the heads-up. Niblick's message is clear as a Highland lake, and I, too, remember confirmations of this status.

  The new message here might have implied a change but I proved the situation "unchanged":

  Putts in the putting CTTH do not use any ball life.

• EdJaws 402 Posts

  Sun, Oct 6 2013 7:32 AM

  Thanks forcefan and The Peoples Club for gathering this info. It's very helpful.
  
  I did a test the GI-D balls, which are not included in your test, and the stats are:
  
  WGT    GI-D    Any    44    2.0    120    5.71    2.57
  
  BTW, the stats for the GI-S ball are bit different than what you posted. The ball price is 49 credits:
  
  WGT    GI-S    Any    49    2.0    120    5.71    2.86

  If I get credits and time, I'll try to do the other balls that have empty fields.

• hpurey 11,505 Posts

  Thu, Oct 10 2013 8:15 AM

  I wonder if vapor trailed balls have less durability since every time you hit one, it looks like it's shedding its cover to make the trail. ;-)

   

  Also, I find it odd that the numbers don't match for the same dots of durability.  2.5 dots of durability should have same number of hits, no?  And there are even a few of them with less dots of durability but more hits.  

  Wondering if that is just from possible count errors, some counting putts, some not? 

   

  I would much rather see a ball lose it's abilities somewhat when it's deemed "out of hits" instead of just throwing it away.  If I was down to my last preferred ball in real life but had a bag full of crap balls, I'd play my game ball until it was either lost or cut.

   

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Thu, Oct 10 2013 8:36 AM

  hpurey:

  I would much rather see a ball lose it's abilities somewhat when it's deemed "out of hits" instead of just throwing it away.

  It already does by morphing in to the starter ball?

  hpurey:

  f I was down to my last preferred ball in real life but had a bag full of crap balls, I'd play my game ball until it was either lost or cut.

  Per above they deem it cut in your analogy.  Any change would have to be at least revenue neutral before WGT would even look at it I think. I can't see how this one would be...