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NEW DRIVER BETWEEN LEVEL 88-94

Thu, Jun 27 2013 11:52 AM (83 replies)
  • DoctorEagle
    1,312 Posts
    Fri, May 24 2013 3:20 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    I don't see WGT making any more money on balls which is the main concern or XP boost's, just throwing dollar's in the wind trying get from L88 to 94 quicker than time it would ordinarily take. .  Would they lose on "hardware" having the R11S L92 maybe yes a little, but the ball's are the main revenue anyway.

    Since it's a lot tougher to compete now... Might need to start using the unlimited starter ball until L94.

    Jimbog1964:
    I could not see any overt advantage to to having the R11S 3 wood
     

    3 1/2 (R11s 3w) forgiveness rating vs 2 1/2 (R11 3w) is a big advantage, especially when the inevitable meter glitch happens... But the 3w doesn't usually come into play as often as the driver. 

  • Steven1163
    2,912 Posts
    Fri, May 24 2013 8:14 PM

    alanti:
    Also to re-iterate my previous post, the game does not need more forgiving and longer drivers IMO - scores are too good as it is.
      You are so right alan....they dont need longer drivers....the golf courses are only so long...and alot of times i tee off with my 3wood...the only case i can see there's a need for is a couple drivers between 81 and 88...and IMO..more wedges...

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, May 25 2013 2:57 PM

    Steven1163:
    they dont need longer drivers....the golf courses are only so long...and alot of times i tee off with my 3wood...the only case i can see there's a need for is a couple drivers between 81 and 88...and IMO..more wedges...

    From your Master Tees the game is different, so your comment becomes not applicable especially with the equipment you have!

    Also distance was only one part of the thread FYI. On this second point your comment does, albeit unintentionally,  highlight another part of the thread which show's where the new is being targeted....

     

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, May 25 2013 3:08 PM

    DoctorEagle:
    3 1/2 (R11s 3w) forgiveness rating vs 2 1/2 (R11 3w) is a big advantage, especially when the inevitable meter glitch happens... But the 3w doesn't usually come into play as often as the driver. 

    Away from the thread now.  Agreed does not come out as often - think I said that and you agreeing.  I only looked for it as never had a complaint about my 3 wood, and seem to remember several people who have the R11S 3 wood saying much the same.  Small point and no time to really compare...........You would think the extra dot should (in theory) count for something though! Enough on that way of problem LOL!

  • DoctorEagle
    1,312 Posts
    Sat, May 25 2013 6:36 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    never had a complaint about my 3 wood, and seem to remember several people who have the R11S 3 wood saying much the same.  Small point and no time to really compare...........You would think the extra dot should (in theory) count for something though! Enough on that way of problem LOL!

    Yep, I think I was agreeing with that, and the concept that the further the ball flies (driver vs. 3w vs. 5w) and the less loft on a club, the more it's going to fade, draw, slice or hook. A 3i is less forgiving than a 3w for many players but you get the point...

    Therefore the extra dot on a 3w might not give as much benefit as even a 1/2 dot would on the driver. I'm guessing the benefit of the r11s 3w is really on display on the many long par 3's from the Legend tees.

    You're right though, the main issue for me is still that they moved the R11s driver from L90 to L94 after many players had the chance to purchase. Therefore, the club has saturated the WGT L90+ ranks and in the meantime, the clubs for players hitting from the TM- tees and L94/L98+ keep getting much, much better. With that combination, it's tougher to consistently compete for the L93- legend crowd that doesn't use the R11s driver.

    In part because it's the same distance as the R11 3w, the L88-L94 3w gap doesn't seem unreasonable... especially if it wasn't ever available to players at L90 unlike the infamous R11s L90/L94 driver.

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Sat, May 25 2013 6:58 PM

    DoctorEagle:
    3 1/2 (R11s 3w) forgiveness rating vs 2 1/2 (R11 3w) is a big advantage, especially when the inevitable meter glitch happens... But the 3w doesn't usually come into play as often as the driver. 

     

    I haven't seen an advantage at all in the three weeks I have had the R11S 3wood...bought for the Merion long par 3's...but in all honesty, I think my normal R11 was better at holding the lines.

     

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, May 25 2013 7:29 PM

    DoctorEagle:
    especially if it wasn't ever available to players at L90 unlike the infamous R11s L90/L94 driver.

    Agreed.  I struggle to get what bit the Pro Shop find's so difficult to get (having already discussed $ at length lol).  I played a good player in my CC the other day MP. Being out driven of every hole and his Fway's 10 yard's wider than mine lol get's a little old after a while having had the same against a TL as said earlier lol. To compound the frustration in the last game his equipment says, " R11S L90" - "OH ET TU BRUTE" LOL.   

    Interesting (for interesting sake only) that R11S 3 wood though.  I can't remember 1 person ever saying it is actually better than the R11 version......Also agreed you don't mind slightly better equipment at better level's, but that R11 driver is just a dinosaur.  The R1, apart from thinking it should also be TL tier I guess, I don't have an issue with at all.....well done being around that much..........enough LOL!

     

     

     

     

  • Steven1163
    2,912 Posts
    Sun, May 26 2013 11:09 AM

    I'm sorry Jim i think i was on a different wavelength there....I thought alan was talking in general...so that means my point...from MY opinion... isn't moot  :-}

  • TracyMax
    2,361 Posts
    Sun, May 26 2013 12:12 PM

    filmslayer:

    nothing wrong with the L88 R11 ...

    I'm sure the R-11's are a fine set as a lot of players use them. I find the meter speeds just too fast for this ole guy's reflexes. I have the G-20 set and like them. I feel they're the best  clubs given distance and accuracy vs. meter speed. JMHO

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Sun, May 26 2013 5:05 PM

    Steven1163:

    I'm sorry Jim i think i was on a different wavelength there....I thought alan was talking in general...so that means my point...from MY opinion... isn't moot  :-}

    Nope right wavelength lol. IMO the game does not need longer and more forgiving equipment for any tier/level.

    Currently the equipment is consistently improving to give longer and more accurate drives (especially for the lower tiered players). This in turn should tier players up faster = greater revenue with upgrades etc. Sure driving is only one part of the game but we are seeing improvements throughout the range - including slow meter balls. Now the best equipment is available to players who have already often totally mastered their games.

    Now I expect arguments that real equipment is continually improving as well - and yes it does, but real golf has so many variables that affect each shot - this game doesn't.

    So with that in mind. theoretically the game gets easier, so scores will get even better - what will WGT do to combat that?

     "The most realistic golf game on the web" yeah right!

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