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Bandon Dunes coming to WGT

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 7:25 AM

  YankeeJim:

  chrisironsbones:

  If Its a cost issue, I'm sure if the elite players could all donate $100 out of their credits.

  Are you serious? You don't raise $100,000, you just reduce the amount of fake money in circulation. The $ that those credits generated are long gone, spent on operations. A new course, 9 or 18, costs real money today, not after it's produced and put out for play. What happens when a new course shows up here? Ball sales might go up but what else is there to offset the copious amount of money spent getting the course produced? That's where the fluff in the Pro Shop comes in.

  We can demand all we want, condemn the powers that be, rant about customers being right, etc., it all comes down to the money. Spend a ton to make millions happy and you're a broke hero. How does WGT make it profitable to them? It has to come from new players and the Pro Shop. A new course, albeit just a par 3, is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

  I was only giving a suggestion a bit far fetched i know, and you add that credits are in fact "fake money".  Being as credits are worthless, why does WGT take a cut in our matchplay challenge rounds or from ready go's ??  If credits are not worth anything to wgt, why take a cut from us?  Why not just let us play the rounds for free.

  This is a bit below the belt, but after watching sky sports news yesterday, i couldn't resist.  NEW YORK METZ!!!

• Doublemochaman 2,009 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 7:42 AM

  They want to deplete your credits so eventually you'll want to BUY more.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 8:04 AM

  chrisironsbones:

  This is a bit below the belt, but after watching sky sports news yesterday, i couldn't resist.  NEW YORK METZ!!!

  LOL. Ya, they took it on the chin there. Good thing is every team is going to lose at least 60 games every year. This was just 4 of them. Sucks that it was to a team going nowhere though.  :-)

• andwhy67 2,816 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 8:25 AM

  l'm liking that idea Alan, why cant WGT advertise themselves, its a big wide world out there.

  lm sure there are many hundreds of great golf courses throughout the world that would love the idea of being seen and played on here in HD. Think of the publicity it could generate?How many members of these courses play on here?

  Forget the big named courses, l bet there's a few of the lesser ones that would be interested!!

   

  alanti:

  borntobesting:

  And since when is getting to vote for the holes that we want included on a new course the same crap??? As far as I know we have never got to vote for what holes we wanted included in any course even the best of courses!

   

  I have mixed feeling, yes I would prefer an 18 hole full stroke play course, but this is also the first time the players will have some input into deciding on which holes will be used.

  I know negotitaions to secure the use of any course can be difficukt and protracted, so without knowing the details it is hard to comment on, but I am sure WGT would have preferred a full 18 hole course, but the saying beggars can't be choosers springs to mind.

  I appreciate any course WGT can produce and having said that,  know many lessor known courses/clubs would love to have the exposure WGT could bring them, so would it not be prudent of WGT to explore these avenues (especially when the Open Courses appear to be non goers)?

• jld51 406 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 8:37 AM

  andwhy67:

  Forget the big named courses, l bet there's a few of the lesser ones that would be interested!!

  Bandon Dunes forget it what about Nuneaton pitch and putt, they   dont even cut the grass there.

• TarheelsRule 5,566 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 9:10 AM

  I agree about the not as famous courses that WGT could add.  However what most of the community seems to clamor for is the 'name' courses.  Having had the opportunity to play hundreds of courses in the US and Scotland, many of the top 100 in the US, I can tell you that there are many courses that don't make the top 100 that are true gems, however I think the issue that WGT has is making sure they pick one that satisfies the community.  I don't think they realize that the community would be happy with the US Open course each year and one or two of the second tier courses.

  For example Southern Hills over in Tulsa, OK is a top 100 course and has hosted several US Opens, PGA's and the Tour Championship.  That would be a great add, even though not everyone has heard of it.  Up in Kohler, Wisconsin there are 5 or 6 courses that are very good, PGA was played there a couple of years ago.  Courses like these two are all around the country and I would just keep knocking on their doors until someone is willing to make a deal.

  Don't put all your eggs in the USGA or R&A basket, especially if they don't want to work with you.  There are other fish in the sea and other courses just as good.

• srellim234 2,077 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 9:38 AM

  Same thing with the Palm Springs area. A lot of very good courses that appear or have appeared on the PGA, LPGA, Canadian and other pro tours over the years.

  A good example would be a place like Desert Dunes. Excellent course. Previously on the PGA Tour,  currently on the Canadian Tour. There would be very little impact on the course if filming took place in June which would probably result in a much lower negotiating price. The course is still green, the snow birds have gone home, only a few locals play it after 9:00 a.m. because of anticipated desert heat.

  Palm Springs has a ton of quality courses of differing types (links, traditional, big elevation changes in canyons, flat on desert floor, no water, lots of water, etc.) and it's not far for WGT to travel.

• lee22sharon 1,419 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 9:38 AM

  alosso:

  YankeeJim:

  It's your choice that costs money, not the game's.  :-)

  I like that line!

  OTOH, I disagree to you, Lee. Paying the expenses from "get free credits" offers ain't free because the charge is people's time, at hourly rates no union would accept.

  To each his own - I for 1 value my time higher than 2 €/hour - I rather invest my cash.

  I never mentioned any How to, only that many players had , again, "No Out Of Pocket Expense"  Their  words, time has value.  Exactly what value is determined by each person.

   

  To each their own I agree.  Our nickle.

   

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 10:14 AM

  You added,

  lee22sharon:

  In my experience that is Free!

  which provoked my nitpicking answer.

  I agree though that ev1 determines the value themselves, partly hiding their time investment behind the "no expenses" line. You and I know better, I don't give up hope that others will get to know the truth soon.

  My 2 Pfennig :)

• srellim234 2,077 Posts

  Fri, May 31 2013 11:16 AM

  Re: playing for free.

  I have to defend WGT on this one. They only advertise that you can play the game for free and that is exactly what they deliver. You can use free WGT-supplied equipment on courses without green fees and play for free.

  They do not advertise that you can be competitive for free. In fact, you can even be competitive for free if you limit your competitions to those involving others who also are of similar skills using the free equipment.

  "Free" credits are not free when factoring in the time involved to obtain them. They are free only in the sense that they don't require out-of-pocket expense. I consider time as another form of payment, much less efficient than cash. But the ability to pay with time instead of cash is a godsend to those of us who do not have access to the discretionary income needed for the "credits required" parts of the game.