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• ArmeniaKidd 99 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:05 PM

  hello,

  Just wondering, if i play someone who is a tier greater and win without opponent forfeiting would my average reduce more than if i win by opponent forfeiting?

  Because, well when i was tour pro i beat someone who was master and got promoted to master tier once i beat him (opponent didnt forfeit). But now i played a tour master and i beat him (because he forfeited, but i was up like 2-3 on him anyways) and my average stayed the same. 

  The Opponent who i beat and moved up tier: i had 67.96 ave (i think) opponent had 71ave  The opponent who forfeited was 62ave while i was 67.

  Thanks.

   

• pjctas0822 4,621 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:16 PM

  when a game is not completed for whatever reason the stats and other relative info are not recorded or saved.

• MBaggese 15,378 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:26 PM

  ArmeniaKidd:

  Just wondering, if i play someone who is a tier greater and win without opponent forfeiting would my average reduce more than if i win by opponent forfeiting?

   

  That's a question WGT will not answer for various reasons.

   

  Bottom line, if you win a MP ranked game against a higher tiered player, you average will go down...wether you win out right, by disconnect or forfeit...as long as it's a "win".

• FBudd 208 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:27 PM

  Yes .very frustrating, i had 2 TM's on the ropes earlyer both left on the final hole.

• ArmeniaKidd 99 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:40 PM

  I just faced two people both tour master, i was up both times, and both forfeited.. ave still same..cmon....

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 10:34 PM

  Two opinions:

  pjctas0822:

  when a game is not completed for whatever reason the stats and other relative info are not recorded or saved.

  MBaggese:

  Bottom line, if you win a MP ranked game against a higher tiered player, you average will go down...wether you win out right, by disconnect or forfeit...as long as it's a "win".

  I don't know the correct answer because of WGT's (justified) secrecy in it. Alas, PJ's statement fits well to AK's observation and former notice in a thread about "stuck at 62 ave.".

  If so, the legitimate forfeit of the match might lead to two consequences (conjecturing):

  - the demeanour in accordance with the rules might count against the completion %%,

  - the win might not be counted as a win, probably only with regard of the average.
  Note: That "62" guy had a few wins against Legends in his activity log.

• MBaggese 15,378 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 11:22 PM

  I might be fuzzy on this, but recall after this was implemented...two buds decided to test it...one a TM the other a Legend...the Legend forfeited a few matches to the TM and the TM was turned legend...I may not have all the facts correct, but fairly sure...they posted (the legend first and the "new: Legend later to confirm) about it.

• FBudd 208 Posts

  Fri, Jun 14 2013 5:32 AM

  MBaggese:

  I might be fuzzy on this, but recall after this was implemented...two buds decided to test it...one a TM the other a Legend...the Legend forfeited a few matches to the TM and the TM was turned legend...I may not have all the facts correct, but fairly sure...they posted (the legend first and the "new: Legend later to confirm) about it.

  id be TL by now if this worked.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Jun 14 2013 5:48 AM

  FBudd:

  id be TL by now if this worked.

  It's only until the player gets to the Legend tier.

• hpurey 11,521 Posts

  Fri, Jun 14 2013 8:05 AM

  I'm not sure if Master vs Tour Master works the same.  I wonder if it is just tiers above yours but on a further tee box than you.  Which may be why the Legend vs Tour Legend don't work.

   

  Just a thought