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How did this player get to Legend?

Tue, Dec 3 2013 12:59 PM (29 replies)
  • craiginho
    22 Posts
    Thu, Nov 28 2013 3:54 PM

    Jim im a legend and to get to legend you need an avg of 61.00 or something like that i cant quite remember

    Anyway my point is i dont know how i ever got a 61.00 avg as i dont have a 61.00 avg game my avg now is about right 67.2 i have what i consider good games 60-65 and i also have bad games 70-72 so how i got to legend is beyond me i guess that im there because of many hours playing the game thats all i can come up with

    What i also noticed whilst being in the master and tour master tiers was if i played a tier higher than me in MP and before the game my avg was 65.8 and i won then my avg would go down to around 65.00 where it would normally go down .2 of a point if i played the same tier and won 

    The game baffles me as to how some people can get to legend (me included) when they have never had the game to actually get to a 61.00 avg in the 1st place 

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Thu, Nov 28 2013 5:27 PM

    craiginho:

    Jim im a legend and to get to legend you need an avg of 61.00 or something like that i cant quite remember

    Anyway my point is i dont know how i ever got a 61.00 avg as i dont have a 61.00 avg game my avg now is about right 67.2 i have what i consider good games 60-65 and i also have bad games 70-72 so how i got to legend is beyond me i guess that im there because of many hours playing the game thats all i can come up with

    What i also noticed whilst being in the master and tour master tiers was if i played a tier higher than me in MP and before the game my avg was 65.8 and i won then my avg would go down to around 65.00 where it would normally go down .2 of a point if i played the same tier and won 

    The game baffles me as to how some people can get to legend (me included) when they have never had the game to actually get to a 61.00 avg in the 1st place 

    You probably got moved up through one of two ways.

    1. Saturation: Once you reach the requisite number of ranked rounds at Tour Master (50 iirc) then your average is only based on the BEST remaining 50 ranked rounds, so an occasional 60 will remove a higher score you may have made months previously but those occasional 70s would have no effect. This is a well-known method.

    2. The exact way this works is much less well-known but if you played MP, AS against higher ranked players (or win MP / tournaments) then your average is significantly reduced EACH TIME you beat a higher ranked player, but that reduction reduces round by round over the next 20 - 25 rounds. If you have several wins tracking the reduction is extremely difficult especially if you then mix it with regular solo stroke play rounds.

    Finally, it is becoming clear that WGT also has something in play whereas if you ONLY play MP / AS then the number of ranked rounds is bypassed in some way. These 'anti-sandbagger' systems are deliberately obtuse to prevent people using the system to their advantage.

  • alosso
    21,094 Posts
    Thu, Nov 28 2013 11:31 PM

    +1!

    In extremo, we have seen players move from Tour Pro to Legend without a single ranked round.

    Two minor remarks:

    Alternate Shot (AS) games do not count in, the only multiplayer game counting is single Match Play AFAIK.

    And, winning credits in official tournaments (weeklies, RGs) will push the process big time, too, reducing the average and breaking the "minimum number" barrier.

  • craiginho
    22 Posts
    Fri, Nov 29 2013 3:10 AM

    Chinajohn:
    Finally, it is becoming clear that WGT also has something in play whereas if you ONLY play MP / AS then the number of ranked rounds is bypassed in some way. These 'anti-sandbagger' systems are deliberately obtuse to prevent people using the system to their advantage

    Points taken on board but would like to clear 1 thing up i wanst and never have been a sandbagger :) i am an honest citizen of this game there a few of us around you know 

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Fri, Nov 29 2013 5:13 AM

    craiginho:
    Points taken on board but would like to clear 1 thing up i wanst and never have been a sandbagger :) i am an honest citizen of this game there a few of us around you know 

    One of the faults of the system was discovered early on-some innocents will be casualties. Sounds like you were one of them. Not to worry, a few weeks from now you'll be just fine once you get used to it.  ;-)

  • duffer19
    3,670 Posts
    Fri, Nov 29 2013 8:12 AM

    been a T/L for just over a month - I have to crack up at 4 month old legends crying about green speeds.  c'mon man - took me (sad but true) roughly 2 1/2 years to get to legend.

    Who suffered more? :)  - shush and play lol - if there's any whining to do - I'll be the one doin it :)

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Fri, Nov 29 2013 11:01 AM

    duffer19:
    Who suffered more? :)  - shush and play lol - if there's any whining to do - I'll be the one doin it :)

    LOL. You tell 'em, Duff.  :-)

  • alosso
    21,094 Posts
    Fri, Nov 29 2013 11:08 AM

    Don't forget: There was much whining about those evil sandbaggers and WGT's effort to act up against it must be honored. Whining about premature tiering up now is too late.

    There is no free lunch.

  • DimpleRook
    25 Posts
    Tue, Dec 3 2013 12:59 PM

    Most of the criteria for moving up in TIER rank is scored/ranked play.  Not so much to do with skill or scoring.  He has 1,916 ranked play games under his belt.  I have 5.  I am amateur at level 67 with a 67 score avg.  I just don't play tourney, stroke, match, & tournament play.  When you are playing nearly 2000 ranked rounds you can bet you are gettng bumped up. 

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