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Ranking of hardest Course on WGT

• gdubbombsit4bird 73 Posts

  Mon, May 5 2014 5:58 PM

  For me...the fronts of Oakmont & Merion can get me swearin and %^#&* @ my PC screen w/ the greatest of ease...those 18 holes ..yuk...for me...

• alberich35 858 Posts

  Mon, May 5 2014 8:45 PM

  Best of par4 with headwind is a nightmare.

• 173 Posts

  Mon, May 5 2014 10:44 PM

  Par 4's

  Merion

  olympic 

  whistler

  pinehurst

  Congressional

  Oakmont

  rsg

  cabo

  andys

  kia 

  beth

• Steven1163 2,912 Posts

  Mon, May 5 2014 10:51 PM

  SwingingRoofer:

  now i think pinehurst 2  should be at top

  +1

  I find Merion easier than Oakmont.

  ~Steven~

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Tue, May 6 2014 3:24 AM

  So much depends on how well you're playing and hitting the ding, at least it does for me anyway.

  On some courses, BPB for instance, I can have a pretty off ding day and still score reasonably well.  At Oakmont or Merion the same standard of play would end in a cricket score.

  Assuming I'm fairly well on form my ranking from hardest to easiest, ignoring the Best of and TruGolf courses, would be:

  Olympic

  Merion, pretty much a tie for 1st though

  Pinehurst

  Kiawah

  Congressional

  Oakmont

  Royal St. Georges

  St. Andrews

  Bethpage

   

  I place Kiawah fairly high because the greens are so unpredictable, if you're hitting very close that's not a problem but if I take my average of 12 feet then they can be very tricky.

  As I mentioned at the start though, any of them can play easy and the next round they turn into a monster. 

  Personally I really like that about WGT, I think it's how it should be.

• Kepone18 196 Posts

  Mon, Jul 25 2016 11:29 AM

  Came across this thread. Where do you guys think Chambers and Pebble will fit in now ? I would say Chambers is a hellishly difficult course, maybe in the top 3 hardest?

  Pebble probably has the easiest first seven holes of any course but, toughens up after that. The 14th must be one of the more difficult par 5 holes to birdie. In terms of difficulty,  would rate it a tad easier than Congo.

   

   

   

   

   

   

• MrFunnyWobbl 894 Posts

  Fri, Aug 5 2016 6:40 PM

   How does everyone find Olympic so hard? Definitely not one of the harder courses on here imo. 

   

  Merion is the hardest for sure. 

   

  Bethpage the easiest, followed by Pebble and Pinehurst. 

• Robert1893 7,722 Posts

  Sat, Aug 6 2016 8:28 PM

  MrFunnyWobbl:

   How does everyone find Olympic so hard? Definitely not one of the harder courses on here imo. 

  Merion is the hardest for sure. 

  Bethpage the easiest, followed by Pebble and Pinehurst.

  So what courses do have as being more difficult than Olympic, other than Merion? 
  
  And I think, overall, St. Andrews is easier than either Pebble and Pinehurst.  

• Robert1893 7,722 Posts

  Sat, Aug 6 2016 9:09 PM

  So I ran some numbers for myself. For me, below are the toughest to easiest courses by my 9-hole averages for each. (I didn't control for font 9 vs. back 9). All rounds were played from the back tees.
  
  Of course, there are various N for each course. For some courses, like Pinehurst, the average is based on only an N of 15. I just don't play that course all that often. I find it to be a bit boring. But for St. Andrews, I have over 350 rounds.
  
  I think the point to remember is that difficulty is a matter of degree. Also, for me, some courses (for example, Bethpage and St. Andrews) have a lower floor than other courses. For example, I've shot multiple sub-30 scores on St. Andrews, front 9. But I haven't shot a single sub-30 score on on Merion, Olympic, or Chambers Bay.
  

  Merion	33.107
  Olympic	33.076
  Chambers Bay	33.013
  Oakmont	32.952
  Congressional	32.548
  Pebble Peach	32.383
  Kiawah	32.357
  Pinehurst	32.333
  Royal St. Georges	31.873
  Bethpage	31.659
  St. Andrews	31.202

   Regardless, fun discussion. I'm glad the thread was resurrected.

• MrFunnyWobbl 894 Posts

  Fri, Aug 12 2016 1:45 PM

  Robert1893:

  MrFunnyWobbl:

   How does everyone find Olympic so hard? Definitely not one of the harder courses on here imo. 

  Merion is the hardest for sure. 

  Bethpage the easiest, followed by Pebble and Pinehurst.

  So what courses do have as being more difficult than Olympic, other than Merion? 
  
  And I think, overall, St. Andrews is easier than either Pebble and Pinehurst.  

   

  Merion, Oakmont both harder than Olympic. I suppose maybe a bit more difficult than I give it credit for, but really only because of trees along the fairway. 

   

  I still think Pinehurst is easier than everything but Pebble and BPB.