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Taking Ball out of Play

• jerry4748 41 Posts

  Tue, Dec 24 2013 6:46 PM

  OK why does the game remove a Ball from play, it's happened during Tournaments and practice rounds.

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Thu, Dec 26 2013 1:24 PM

  It has reached the end of it's 'durability' (hits) and is no longer functional.

  Just 2 the right of the ball is a bar that shows how much durability the ball in play has left.

  From: http://www.wgt.com/help.aspx#equipclubs

  You can see all of the attributes of the balls in the Pro Shop. They are Distance, Spin, Feel and Durability.
  
  
  
  Distance: Will display the increase in distance you will receive using the ball 
  
  Spin: Will display the increase in spin you will receive using the ball 
  
  Feel: A ball with a Feel rating will decrease the speed of the swing meter when the ball is used 
  
  Durability: Will display how many hits the ball can absorb before being taken out of play

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Thu, Dec 26 2013 1:32 PM

  Common numbers are 90 to 120 strokes, not counting putts on the green.

  There may be some balls (MAX?) with lower hit numbers.

• HackWilson1930 1,437 Posts

  Thu, Dec 26 2013 2:16 PM

  Like real golf, a cut or a flat spot will happen and you replace the ball. And tournament golf rules require the player to use the same brand and quality of ball throughout a round. Run out of balls while on the course and the only options are to borrow the same ball you have been playing from another player or withdraw. WGT allows the use of the plain vanilla ball if you run out of branded balls.

• jerry4748 41 Posts

  Sat, Feb 22 2014 6:23 AM

  So my Question is , why can't WGT let us use the balls we have in our bags while we play.

  Say I'm playing a Round and it's the last ball of the one I'm using, I have Other balls in my bag to use instead of buying another sleeve,I use Nike, I have Callaiy, WGT and so on.

  Can't WGT fix it so we it goes to the  next ball in line in the bag instead of going to the free ones.

  Somebody look into this Please.

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sat, Feb 22 2014 10:07 AM

  jerry4748:

  Can't WGT fix it so we it goes to the  next ball in line in the bag instead of going to the free ones.

  Somebody look into this Please.

  Yes they can't.

  They negated this a while ago. Listen to the Chat with Chad (be patient, tone starting at 2:30)

• srellim234 2,077 Posts

  Sun, Feb 23 2014 8:14 AM

  jerry4748:

  So my Question is , why can't WGT let us use the balls we have in our bags while we play.

  Say I'm playing a Round and it's the last ball of the one I'm using, I have Other balls in my bag to use instead of buying another sleeve,I use Nike, I have Callaiy, WGT and so on.

  Can't WGT fix it so we it goes to the  next ball in line in the bag instead of going to the free ones.

  Somebody look into this Please.

  There are a couple of aspect to your post, jerry.

  It's virtually impossible to properly determine what is the "next ball in line". One ball has more distance, one ball has more spin, one ball has combination of attributes that equal those with raised levels of the other two. In most cases there simply isn't only one ball that is the "next in line". As in real life, one player's next best ball is different than the next player's. Even if they both have the same balls in the bag, experience, skill level, playing style, even player confidence all are factors.

  WGT imposes the "one ball rule" guidelines set by the USGA in the rules for competition. They amended them to allow players to finish a round with the default ball. Otherwise the result would be that you would be disqualified for running out of a particular golf ball. So, just consider that the default ball IS the "next ball in line" in your bag and plan and play accordingly.

  If they allowed the player to choose the next ball they open up credit competitions to a tremendous amount of fraud. It would be easy for someone to begin a game with a ball that only has a few hits left on in, run out in the first hole or two and put into play his or her actual favorite with favorite attributes. Hustlers will be preying on unsuspecting opponents even more than they are now.

  After all of that, though, I do agree that a player should be able to pick any ball out of the bag to replace the removed one in practice play only. It is not a competition so what WGT is doing is uncalled for based on the rules. It is only being done to drive ball sales and avoid further programming.

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Sun, Feb 23 2014 10:35 AM

  There is no tournament rule or rule of golf that applies.

  However there is a Condition Of The Competition that a tournament committee can invoke - called the One Ball Condition. WGT functions as the tournament committee here.

  The One Ball Condition is covered in the Rules of Golf - Appendix 1, Part C, 1. c. (page 138 of the small golf bag size 2012-2015 RoG book USGA member get with their membership)

  http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Appendix-I/

• renniw52 5,385 Posts

  Sun, Feb 23 2014 11:16 AM

  I finally have to comment on the replacing the rock ball. To me this is tee total bull$hit. When WGT replaces your ball with the free ball, they make nothing, zero, no money at all. If you have other balls in your bag you have paid for then you will continue to wear them out and have to buy more. I fully understand the rules of REAL GOLF, having to use the same ball type to finish a round. Since when does this game conform to every real rule of golf? Look at the other aspects of this game that has nothing to do with real golf. In my opinion WGT is costing themselves money by sticking to this stupid practice. According to their own confessions, they can change this or that whenever it is deemed necessary. Just give the player an option to choose the next ball they have. Minor infraction and will eventually make WGT more money. Is this not what WGT is all about? Revenue. 

• 1,866 Posts

  Sun, Feb 23 2014 3:03 PM

  srellim234:

  If they allowed the player to choose the next ball they open up credit competitions to a tremendous amount of fraud. It would be easy for someone to begin a game with a ball that only has a few hits left on in, run out in the first hole or two and put into play his or her actual favorite with favorite attributes. Hustlers will be preying on unsuspecting opponents even more than they are now.

  No disrespect, I see you're a long time member and I always found your posts to be helpful, but this is bull$hit (a word borrowed from Senor Rodant cojones' post above mine).

  How exactly could people hustle this way? Who (in their right mind) would give opponents a head start by starting a credit game with a lesser ball? And to what purpose? Do you think people check their opponets balls (no pun intended) before they agree to a MPC? Maybe some check which clubs the other guy has, even though that takes time (finding the guy through WGT players tab). But to worry about what balls he's playing with? Really? Is anyone really this anal?

  Cheers,

  Matt