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What a difference a ball makes Or Hallejullah to the lord

Thu, Dec 26 2013 8:37 AM (8 replies)
  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 3:55 PM

    I know I've been ranting & raving lately, but when you're game has suddenly gone out the door you are left scratching your head to what gone on you want answers??  Thanks without him even realizing to Notonthis for kicking my butt and for kicking me into gear.  yes, not playing every hour of the day you might get "ring rust" so to say and forgetting the little things you used to remember on greens etc etc, but more simple than that, i noticed notonthis who is always winning ready go's not using the highest spec Nikes, and because i too only had 2 left and could not be bothered buy any after losing $40 to Notonthis i decided to use the lesser spec Nikes i had in my bag too which have been sitting there for months.  When using the Nike clubs with high spin, high distance Nike balls my shots would sometimes come up 10 yards short, and yes, wgt DOES DEVIATE certain shots, but a lot had to do with the spin on clubs.  Using lesser spin balls with the Nike's i started landing close to pin again and would have even scored 53 in $20 ready go if meter had not skipped a beat and i pressed late too on 40 yard approach.  I dont know If It because Its Christmas and Vem?deviation machine has gone on holiday and wgt is laying off or It could be a simple fact that lesser spin balls deviate less in the first place and my yardages are nailed on like they were with R11's.  Any way, 2 ready go's with low scores again and high $$ matchplay wins shows a little thing can go long ways and Its NOT ALL WGT's fault (only partial) but i might have a even more sinister result to why things have improved.  I for the last few months had put the Vatican State as my flag so maybe the big golfer in the sky, reverse of Dog, might have been upset with this especially earning $$ by gambling in ready go's under his flag and the other kiddy fiddling priests (only a few) so now I'ts been changed miracilously my game has INSTANTLY Improved.  Coincidence???  Is It the balls or Is it the flag change???

    I have 3 excellent rounds, enter the oakmont back ready go and then things start going pear shaped once again so no matter what we do the final say in round scoring is left with WGT. A good score in one ready go does not give you the right to score the same again in another ready go  Wgt spreads the love between all who can achieve It, but since the flag change even the bad round i got at Oakmont whilst writing this i was -2 at the 16th having sent tee shot astray into centre of green yet my 38 foot putt dropped for birdie and next hole a 30 yard approach went in for eagle so even my bad round turned good.  I'm telling you, never ever fly the Vatican state flag as a gimmik, It will Kill your golf, gambling, enjoyment and SANITY!!

    (AND ALSO I HAVE A LOADED SNIPER RIFLE AIMED AT THE FIRST PERSON TO STICK A SARCASTIC PICTURE REPLY)

  • DAZZA501
    5,972 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 5:43 PM

    Free rental days=no vem. You should know that by now Chris :)

    Interesting thought tho on the balls. Fmagnets uses the lower level nike balls also and i don't need to tell you how good he is.

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 6:24 PM

    During free rentals in the past I tried the R11's and used the top Nike ball to get an idea of what the top dogs use and how the shots play. I couldn't stand the inconsistency of the top Nike balls and the R11 clubs combined. I used your(CIB's) iron chart but couldn't get the clubs and balls to do what I wanted worth a crap. Everything was either long or way short with anything more than half BS applied. I ended up with the impression that the combo of clubs with too much BS and the balls that produce a ridiculous amount of BS were the problem.

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 6:40 PM

    i use the lower level Nike balls as well, but only cuz mags does, somethin to do with the spin and the algorithm, blah blah blah, he has a better explanation than i, but i seem to do better with it and don't care to change anytime soon. To me it seems like there is less deviation, could all be in my head.

    As far as the rounds Chris, you can't honestly think you are going to shoot perfect and win everything every time. I think sometimes people take this VEM/deviation thing and blow it way out of proportion and blame it for every bad or errant shot that happens. There are plenty of times in my games where i get a gift from VEm as well.  I understand what you are saying that it means manipulation. In a perfect world the deviation could be linear. You miss ding be x a mount and it goes off by x amount. Problem is you have auto dingers and cheats that could manipulate that. So would you rather have a cheater manipulate the game and win everything and show his friends how to do do it and all of them take everything all the time, or would it be better for there to be some randomness, kind of like real golf, when you take this swing and it feels oho so great and you think to yourself "In the Hole" only to see it sale off into the trees or some sand trap. Golf, gamin, computers, algorithms are not a perfect linear wonderful utopian places. There are problems, there are mistakes, there are WTF moments, just chuckle and move on man. its what most of the top players do. We all experience it and you can drive yourself mad getting worked up about it or you can play and have fun and enjoy yourself and not end up in mental institution

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 8:48 PM

    chrisironsbones:
    (AND ALSO I HAVE A LOADED SNIPER RIFLE AIMED AT THE FIRST PERSON TO STICK A SARCASTIC PICTURE REPLY)

    Then I would never be in the cross hairs... ( today ) :-)

    Tip:= insert the occasional paragraph as these ol' eyes of mine are waning !

    Nice post, takes a big man to admit......................( partially )

    Andy

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Wed, Dec 25 2013 10:47 PM

    chrisironsbones:
    (AND ALSO I HAVE A LOADED SNIPER RIFLE AIMED AT THE FIRST PERSON TO STICK A SARCASTIC PICTURE REPLY)

    How about a sarcastic film clip (to go along with the title of this thread) ...

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Thu, Dec 26 2013 4:52 AM

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Dec 26 2013 5:23 AM

    chrisironsbones:
    after losing $40 to Notonthis

    chrisironsbones:
     Thanks without him even realizing to Notonthis for kicking my butt

    Take a page out of his book while you're at it and learn what classy is all about. He didn't say "boo" about doing this and you never read him whining about the game.

     

  • ZioMio
    4,680 Posts
    Thu, Dec 26 2013 8:37 AM

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