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• geraldlarousse 1,986 Posts

  Wed, Feb 12 2014 8:56 AM

  Steve2golf:

  geraldlarousse:

  Same mofo's every friggen time.  Yup... then figure same ones every time,,,, so must not be a excuse then. I would say at that point done on purpose.....no?? The i was busy doing something else excuse don't fly after you do it a million times.......lmao!

  I could join the club and wait for the last minute as well, but sorry, no can do, life gets in the way.

  So I guess if you have the time to watch closely, and there's proven success to the practice of waiting till the last minute, makes some sense to wait till the last minute to play the big events and the rg's.

  So unless WGT comes to their senses, then there will always be less entries to the rg's, they will take longer to fill, and as more and more players become aware of the obvious success to be gained by waiting for the last minute, the rg's will become less and less popular and played far less.

  OOO that is exactly Steve what they are doing. Waiting for the tourney to fill and checking the scores.

  Anybody says anything different is full of shite. Especially since done pointed out same one's every time... yup. Like clock work. Wish could name them.... would stir the shite up for sure. Shame they got to wait a month or so to do that in a TL ready go.  :))

  Yes mate a very lonely matter. Seems nowadays doing to right thing went out the window. When does this company do the right thing??  LOL

  Not to mention seems a lot of these players done sipped way to much WGT Kool-aid. To late for them.

  I mean... really to be truthful... i'm totally surprised that one of the non ready go cheerleaders hasn't come to this thread and helped us out with this situation. Seems they know everything about ready goes even though they don't play any. Must have missed this thread. Or.... WGT stopped short.... getting head removed now. Ain't got time for this.....lol.

• Morgies 105 Posts

  Thu, Feb 13 2014 5:01 PM

  Ah!

  I started a similar thread to this :-)

  (Thanks to Steve2golf for sharing link)

  It's simple math for WGT. If there were 8 Legend RG's I probably give most a shot. Alas, trying to earn credits to pay for my balls I'm forced into playing with the Tour Legends. Tried a Best of par 3 (9 holes) ... Guess what -10 won erm ... And my measly -5 (Which I felt was strong-ish) lost credits :-)

  Back to the thread ... There MUST be a 'fair and reasonable' time limit for RG's as it's driving people away from the 'game'.

  I would also suggest removing the 'how many players have posted a score. EG. On Merion Legend Full 18 and looking at previous results circa 10 - 18 players withdraw as they have a nightmare (Don't we all!) ... If You see this stat that 49 people have entered and circa 33 have posted a score, you can pretty much guarantee tthat even a slightly over par round will guarantee a return.

  Meh ...

  Morgies

   

• Steve2golf 930 Posts

  Thu, Feb 13 2014 5:58 PM

  Morgies:

  Tried a Best of par 3 (9 holes) ... Guess what -10 won erm ... And my measly -5 (Which I felt was strong-ish) lost credits :-)

  Been there, I had -9 and lost to a -10.

  Morgies:

  I would also suggest removing the 'how many players have posted a score. EG. On Merion Legend Full 18 and looking at previous results circa 10 - 18 players withdraw as they have a nightmare (Don't we all!) ... If You see this stat that 49 people have entered and circa 33 have posted a score, you can pretty much guarantee tthat even a slightly over par round will guarantee a return.

  Meh ...

  I would add, you should only be able to see the leaderboard after it's paid out, as much as I like to monitor my standing, it's having an impact on 1 of the reasons for the late entry.

  If I ran the ready goes, here is what I would do in addition to the already great things they do with the teired and various courses and winds.

  • 3 hour timer.
  • Tie for first would be broken by first to post the score, nothing else nothing more and if still tied however unlikely, oldest account.
  • More low wind, no wind low credit, 9 holers, even as low as 25 credits. The 50 credit low wind fills fast, takes forever to pay, but fills fast, it's very popular, therefore simple economics says there should be more of them.
  • 2 more teirs for the Legend and TL RG's, over $500 and Under $500 in winnings.
  • I would scrap all this VEM or whatever manipulation crap tin foil hat whatever TF is going on in those things, play well, score well, just that simple. If people feel cheated, they leave to only seldom return till the screws get turned up again, a scant few will plough through it, but many more just give up.
  • Delete the easter egg crap, I have seen it, done it, very boring, last player plays easy, scrap that crap, everyone is on to it now, delete it, we don't need everyone jockying to play last, just makes for a slow filling RG. HINT SEE TL RG, udderrly ridiculous, all those players play all the RG's, so why the wait then? A wee bit obvious, delete it sooner rather than later.
  • Give the big boys their 5000/10000/20000/50000 credit RG, but only works if you do all the other suggestions, I bet it would be very popular if not all of them had to jocky to play last and had to race to get in and post early and play well score well as well would make these a ton of fun.
  • Cut the rake in 1/2 as well and redistrube it among the top ten, double dipping is never popular.
  • If the rg has not filled in a week, rake is deleted, credits paid to winner depending on who's in, and said RG is removed forever.

  That's it, rant done.

   

   

• Morgies 105 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 8:10 AM

  Currently:

  Whistler Full 18 200cr I'm in 4th !

  Total player count 32 !

  18 players still to post a score ... YAWN WGT !

  Sort this debacle out ... 24 hours play or lose your buyin!

  Thanks :-)

  Morgies

• donsprintr 2,063 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 10:37 AM

  Waiting for the last possible minute to play is also done in unlimited comps ... and in this case, there is a distinct advantage, if you have managed to post a score lower than the leader, whether it be stroke play or CTTH. It gives virtually no time to the competitors to notice that they've been bettered, and complete another round in hopes of regaining their spot. One of the pitfalls of unlimited play competition. I won a weekly nine unlimited back in 2009 in this manner, and though I was happy about the win, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and I don't intentionally do it anymore.

  But as far as single play comps go, it gives you no advantage other than a psychological one. I've seen plenty competitions where the leading score was shot within the first day or couple of days and it remained top of the leaderboard until the end. 

  But I am in favor of cutting the time on Ready-Go's somewhat .... say 6 or 8 hours max.That would allow people to enter a Ready-Go, and even if it closes when they are at work or asleep, they still have time to complete their round in the given time frame. Given, they would have to be careful as to how many players have entered, and how fast these comps fill, so that it doesn't close and end before they are able to get back to their PC. Understandable why there is only 3 hours for a CTTH RG... they only take about 7 or 8 minutes to shoot.

  Seems to me a happy medium ...

• Steve2golf 930 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 3:01 PM

  donsprintr:

  But I am in favor of cutting the time on Ready-Go's somewhat .... say 6 or 8 hours max.

  Good point, but lets assume for a sec it was 3 hours and they did not enter, would it not be available again they woke? Assuming of course they sleep for at least 3 hours.

  I have also led the whole way by the way, but rumour has it that the game is easier when you are 1 of the last in and most of the scores have been posted and getting a higher spot on the leaderboard is the ultimate goal. Waiting till the end happens plenty, and the same players do it over and over and over again. Personally I think there might  be something to the rumour otherwise the same players would not do it all the time. Surely the timing of their work and sleep does not effect every RG they enter as they open and close at all different hours.

  This is also the reason for uproar over the 3 hour timer that happened already, it's much harder with a 3 hour timer to be one of the last to post a score, with a 12 hour timer you can check back every 8 hours or so, with a 3 hour timer you would have to check back every 2 hours. Thats a pain if you happen to be one of the many that need to post a score late.

  Having a peek at the leaderboard is useless, as the only way you benefit from it, you have to be already in it and at that point whats the difference.

• Morgies 105 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 5:29 PM

  Thing is ...

  I don't care about leader boards ...

  I' (Like the majority [I hope ...  maybe naïvely] just want play a RG as there's no skins action at the times I play.

  In terms of the WGT business model ... there's a serious money making opportunity being missed here. EG. Currently ... There's not one legend RG to play and hasn't been for circa over 24 hours. That's a crazy position to be in.

  YES! I'm only making these posts as I'm doing okay in the RG;s  ... First time since Master tier but, there must be others out there that don't want to mix it up with the 100cr / 200cr Tour Legends (YET) ... As the scores they post (At the top end ) are <ahem> implausible :-)

  Having said that ... I'm currently waiting a the Legend Olympic front 9 to finish where I shot -9 .... Which I equally find implausible/questionable but hey ... I shot a CRAZY round! :-)

  Morgies

  (WGT ... You announced 'New Legend RG's ... You delivered! Alas, you didn't account for people that buyin and have no intention to play for 48 hours which kind of means ... There's no RG's to play for Legends :-)

  Meh ...

  [ WGT ...  Have you considered analysing how quick these RG's fill up and what conditions players favour so that you can target players and generate a superior turn-over? Happy to complete some analysis for some sleeves :-)]

• Morgies 105 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 5:34 PM

  Morgies:

  [ WGT ...  Have you considered analysing how quick these RG's fill up and what conditions players favour so that you can target players and generate a superior turn-over? Happy to complete some analysis for some sleeves :-)]

   

  EG: The Legend Olympic Front 9 .. on FAST greens for 200cr ... Is not very popular: ERGO DO NOT persist with 200cr or more likely the FAST greens as they are not popular ... Simples :-)