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What if ?? V.E.M. was disabled?

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 10:08 AM

  People talk for,

  and also against VEM.

   

  I'd like to be neutral, and ask for your comments on:

  What would be some of the results if VEM was disabled?

  
  

  Some curious inquiries I would have is:

  a) How might this affect a beginner with nice equipment?

  b) How might this affect a tour legend with starter equipment?

  
  

   

• Dougie4042 4,410 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 1:29 PM

  VEM, as most golfers on this site think of it, is a myth.  In reality, it is simply how the equipment is programmed to react depending on the various course conditions and how each golfer used the equipment.

  You're welcome.  :-)

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 1:46 PM

  Dougie4042:

  VEM, as most golfers on this site think of it, is a myth.

  Erm, are you serious? You might want to read up on it a little before you go saying something like that. Some of the perceptions might be a myth but count on it being a real deal. 

  IMO, JF, I think you'd see absolutely ridiculous, unrealistic  low scores akin to cartoon golf with a great many HIOs and hole-outs. It would become a ding contest and there's stuff out there that can do that for you. LOL, basically disaster.  ;-)

• Dougie4042 4,410 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 1:58 PM

  YankeeJim:

  Erm, are you serious?

  There he is!  And a good day to you, good sir.  :-)

  P. S. - And congrats on going over 15,000 career posts!  I gotta get Andyson to put together one of his funny graphics for you.

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 2:03 PM

  WGT must have some real fancy lawyers. Getting a full patent on a myth, now that's clever.

• BolloxInBruges 1,389 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 2:21 PM

  YankeeJim:

  Dougie4042:

  VEM, as most golfers on this site think of it, is a myth.

  Erm, are you serious? You might want to read up on it a little before you go saying something like that. Some of the perceptions might be a myth but count on it being a real deal. 

  IMO, JF, I think you'd see absolutely ridiculous, unrealistic  low scores akin to cartoon golf with a great many HIOs and hole-outs. It would become a ding contest and there's stuff out there that can do that for you. LOL, basically disaster.  ;-)

  I'd say it is a myth as well, and I've read my share of theories on the forums...

  edit- I wish I could believe in VEM, would give me good excuse for the crappy rounds I've been playing other than me just sucking...

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 2:31 PM

  BolloxInBruges:

  I'd say it is a myth as well, and I've read my share of theories on the forums...

  edit- I wish I could believe in VEM, would give me good excuse for the crappy rounds I've been playing other than me just sucking...

  LOL. Heard it all now.   :-)

• Dougie4042 4,410 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 2:42 PM

  PaulTon:

  WGT must have some real fancy lawyers. Getting a full patent on a myth, now that's clever.

  You never know with them lawyers!  They clever with them words!  o.O

  BolloxInBruges:

  edit- I wish I could believe in VEM, would give me good excuse for the crappy rounds I've been playing other than me just sucking...

  Well, can I play you soon?  I wanna be able to say I beat one of the greats!  I probably won't, but a brother can dream, yes? 

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 3:01 PM

  YankeeJim:

  Dougie4042:

  VEM, as most golfers on this site think of it, is a myth.

  Erm, are you serious? You might want to read up on it a little before you go saying something like that. Some of the perceptions might be a myth but count on it being a real deal. 

  IMO, JF, I think you'd see absolutely ridiculous, unrealistic  low scores akin to cartoon golf with a great many HIOs and hole-outs. It would become a ding contest and there's stuff out there that can do that for you. LOL, basically disaster.  ;-)

  It exists, no two ways about it.  Agree with what YJ said.

  On from that mostly it serves it purpose.  Sometimes a bit silly as it's not perfect how it applies what it intends.  Just had a 3.7' pan cake flat putt at Merion, Legend tourney greens .  My new super dooper L86 Versa on only the 15' scale dinged at 29%, and yep .2 inches short.........In fairness it's rare I walk away thinking that's a real pi$$er, but a good reminder it exists.  Yes I know I could have hit it harder, and rear view mirrors asking for trouble, but that would have dropped often as well....Reminder all round..

   

• Jerm65 1,413 Posts

  Fri, Apr 11 2014 3:05 PM

  For what it's worth, I think most folks confuse VEM with the deviation that's inherent in their clubs (forgiveness and precision...or rather, the lack of it).

  Interesting to read Sam's thoughts on it though.