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Fri, May 9 2014 1:10 AM (18 replies)
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  • TomJay1
    200 Posts
    Sat, May 3 2014 2:28 PM

    I would like the option of turning off the caddy. 90% of the time he hands me the wrong club and it doesn't matter what type of shot. I would rather pick my own club and do it right than have the caddy hand me the wrong club. It costs me a few shots a day and perhaps you keep it for the lost balls and extra hits. Today, on a 240 yard par 3 with a 9 mph tailwind he gave me a driver (282 yards)instead of my 3 wood (245 yards) and when I hit the ball too far you took my new RZN ball. This is total bs!!!!

     

    Every player I know loses strokes every day because of the caddy. Please make it optional just like the sound.

     

    Thanks

     

    Hello All I win they are going to give us the button. Could I request a Donald Trump Button? YOUR FIRED!!!!!!!  LOL

     

    TomJay

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Sat, May 3 2014 4:56 PM

    If you turned the caddie off you'd have to select the clubs, shot type and the putting meter all the time right?  So... just do it now and ignore the caddie. Click on each club on each shot as if there's was no suggestion from the caddie. Re-affirm the putting meter each time yourself.  It's part of my routine and it works fine. Try it.

    Blaming the caddie means the player made a mistake. You're the player so blame yourself.

  • TomJay1
    200 Posts
    Sat, May 3 2014 11:52 PM

    Blaming the caddie means the player made a mistake. Nothing could be further from the truth. This statement is wrong. The truth is that it means the player did not make a correction to a mistake made by the game. 

     

    I asked for a simple fix that many would love, that is to allow the player to turn off the caddie. If you like what you do then the caddie box would make no difference to you and you would not have to check it but to many that I know they would save more than one bad shot a day. Almost every putt, almost every full shot and almost every pitch chip or flop the club selected is wrong and with the short shots the shot selected is wrong as well. I am changing the club almost every shot already but distractions at home or from the players in the group make it easy to forget to check the selection made by the caddy. Between chat, figuring out the effect of wind, elevation, green speed, and slope and running dots and changing cameras, using the zoom, trying to miss trees, sand traps and the rough while aligning your shot, is time consuming. More for some than others but I see a lot of people that use over 60 seconds on every shot preparing for the shot. Most consider a 45 second clock a pretty fast game because there is so much to do preparing for every shot. I would rather not have the game give me a wrong club and I would rather pick the correct club from the beginning. If the caddie was right most of the time then this would not be an issue but the caddie never considers  the wind, it's direction speed or angle, it never considers the slope and speed of the green,  in fact, it never considers elevation for any shot, and it doesn't considers all of the clubs you own. It almost never picks the right wedge for approach shots and one of its biggest errors is to pick the 100 foot putter just because you ball is on the fringe. It does all of these things wrong all of the time. I believe it would be a lot easier to offer the off switch than repair all of the issues with the caddy.  This is an easy solution to a problem that is bothering many players.

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Sun, May 4 2014 11:47 AM

    Caddie woes - We need your feedback 

    Add a post in the above thread.

  • TomJay1
    200 Posts
    Sun, May 4 2014 3:46 PM

    Alex - just finished a game where on player made two serious mistakes, he wanted to flop but forgot that the caddy automaticly selects pitch. The I made one because I had headwind and elevation and the caddie did not compensate for either. All these mistakes occure because you forget to change the club or shot selected by the caddie. Please just give us a box in game settings to diable the caddie and pick our own shot and club. This would be 100% satisfactory to me and many others. Those that dislike it get to stop it and those that like it get to keep it. 

    In the 4 rounds I played today the caddie errors that went ungchanged for me and the other playes was about 10. This doesn't make for a fun round. 

  • suncity28
    1,266 Posts
    Sun, May 4 2014 4:05 PM

    TomJay1:
    I would like the option of turning off the caddy.

    Caddy is there as an example or rough guild. 

    TomJay1:
    90% of the time he hands me the wrong club and it doesn't matter what type of shot.

    This is true but in saying this you don`t haft to hit the club the caddy gives you.

    TomJay1:
    I would rather pick my own club and do it right than have the caddy hand me the wrong club

    You have the option on every single shot to pick any club in your bag even using a putter of the tee.

    TomJay1:

    Today, on a 240 yard par 3 with a 9 mph tailwind he gave me a driver (282 yards)instead of my 3 wood (245 yards) and when I hit the ball too far you took my new RZN ball. This is total bs!!!!

    I would have hit 3 wood and i guess you wanted to hit 3 wood as well, why did you hit the driver when you could have changed it to 3 wood would have taken less then 4 or 5 seconds to do so. or you could have done it when you waiting to zoom to the green.

    TomJay1:
    Every player I know loses strokes every day because of the caddy. Please make it optional just like the sound.

    All players have the option of!

    Using the club the caddy selects or picking another option. You have the option to change the club to the club you want it takes no time at all to change/ pick the club you wan`t.

    You are asking for the option to pick your own club! you do?

    so i don`t quite understand if you mean something different to that

     

     

    Thanks

     

    TomJay

     

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Sun, May 4 2014 4:19 PM

    TomJay1:

    Alex - just finished a game where on player made two serious mistakes, he wanted to flop but forgot that the caddy automaticly selects pitch. The I made one because I had headwind and elevation and the caddie did not compensate for either. All these mistakes occure because you forget to change the club or shot selected by the caddie. Please just give us a box in game settings to diable the caddie and pick our own shot and club. This would be 100% satisfactory to me and many others. Those that dislike it get to stop it and those that like it get to keep it. 

    In the 4 rounds I played today the caddie errors that went ungchanged for me and the other playes was about 10. This doesn't make for a fun round. 

    The caddie doesn't hit the shots, we do. Like I said you're asking for something that you can control and correct yourself without WGT having to change anything. You're admitting you are the problem not them in the above post as well.

    BTW, this has been asked a ton of times and it hasn't been changed yet. Instead of waiting for them to do something to help you, help yourself and learn a new pre-shot routine that includes making all the decisions yourself.

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Mon, May 5 2014 11:03 AM

    1st - Who is Alex?

    I agree that the player has full responsibility for keeping track of what the auto caddy is doing,

    But I still want the ability to turn the auto caddy off so I can eliminate the task of checking up on the caddy from my shot routine.

     

  • BubbaSauce
    260 Posts
    Mon, May 5 2014 11:32 AM

    How is it that your failure to make club/shot selection part of your pre-shot routine the caddy's fault?

    It would seem to me that whether you make the selections yourself or just check, you're basically taking the same action. Change your habits and the caddy option becomes moot.

  • HackWilson1930
    1,437 Posts
    Mon, May 5 2014 3:40 PM

    Before a shot I check the wind, the club, the kind of shot, the lie, the ball spin. Routine. Before a putt I check green speed (first hole),  break, distance, rise or fall. Routine. I am sure Bubba checks with his caddy prior to making a shot as opposed to taking the club and hitting without thought.  Golf does require thinking and allowing a computerized caddy to do it all does not make for a challenging or fun game; only a good finger/mouse/ eye coordination. Kind of like playing pinball

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