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• cdefghi 2,872 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 3:23 AM

  chrisironsbones:

  Why not give out TOTEM-POLE FLAGSTICKS for the next clash event!!

  Gr8 idea, as long as the nitwit(s) who came up with this gnome thing, puts the totem poles the same place many have already suggested they put the gnomes.

  Gnome-more posts on this subject from me, I've seen the light. Let's just hope both totem poles and gnomes end up where there is no light.

• shovlovin 2,112 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 4:10 AM

  Lighten up bud, only a bit of FUN ,remember that ?. If you think about it, It will get more members playing in you cc comps. chill

• LuckySkreet 611 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 5:34 AM

  Perhaps one reason WGT allows "any" club member to start a clash event would  be to ensure that any player (regardless of club affiliation) has an opportunity to participate.  Sort of makes sense considering  only ONE Country Club out of the top four has  directorship other than the "Owner".......  

• 100plus 801 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 6:11 AM

  I am very simple minded and am old school ie : common sense.As the entering of a clash involes the entire CC (which was paid for and grown) by a Wgt  player it is surely their right to decide if they want to participate in any type of event as a CC .

  How hard would it be to place a yes or no check box in owners tools as to whether they wish for ""their CC"" to participate in any random draw Clashes or other things WGT may draw up in the future. We have a box available to allow or hide that we are looking for new players so it would be an easy addition.

  As for the fact that some of my members may like to play in these they can always go to a CC that actively engages in this sort of event ,that would be a personal choice for them and not involve any 1 else or the CC in their decision.

  Trev

  Owner Laff N Play CC

• billcliff 2,616 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 6:19 AM

  shovlovin wrote

  Lighten up bud, only a bit of FUN ,remember that ?. If you think about it, It will get more members playing in you cc comps. chill.

  The problem with this crap. it is not a cc comp its created by WGT for their benefit only

• alosso 21,070 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 6:21 AM

  Players have the opportunity to participate in players' events. OTOH, since this is a CC event, it should be at the discretion of the CC to participate or not. In the end, the CC's name stands on the podest and not any player's name.

  Since there is no democratic structure in the CCs, it's but the owner who should be in charge. Eventually, he is the only person to decide who receives the putter!

  From a practical POV, it's a tad much to leave all the decisions and action to the owner. The short schedule of the Clash excludes that, having working hours and sleep in mind. It would be a good field of action for "directors", once they may have any function.

• stevereilly 5,910 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 6:42 AM

  alosso:

  From a practical POV, it's a tad much to leave all the decisions and action to the owner. The short schedule of the Clash excludes that, having working hours and sleep in mind. It would be a good field of action for "directors", once they may have any function.

  Agreed,  but yet WGT continues to rush out cc clashes and giving cc tools to directors takes a back seat.

  WGT is a US company, running on Pacific time so that when anything like this is started CC owners maybe caught unaware as they also have work commitments and such. 

  It can be several hours into a clash before a CC owner knows it's happening so "super" passes  haven't been allocated.

  If WGT were to allow directors some of the tools the owner has then a cc can be mobilized by other directors  ( directors are the owners chosen representatives ).

  OK , I admit most of the top 5 CCs from clash 2 are run purely by owners, they probably have more time on their hands. However, a lot of CCs are more democratic.

  The "golden putter" is still the owners choice,   so c'mon WGT instead of rushing headlong into getting these clashes out,  sort out some of the other CC stuff promised.

   

• LuckySkreet 611 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 6:57 AM

  100plus:

  I am very simple minded and am old school ie : common sense.As the entering of a clash involes the entire CC (which was paid for and grown) by a Wgt  player it is surely their right to decide if they want to participate in any type of event as a CC .

  How hard would it be to place a yes or no check box in owners tools as to whether they wish for ""their CC"" to participate in any random draw Clashes or other things WGT may draw up in the future. We have a box available to allow or hide that we are looking for new players so it would be an easy addition.

  As for the fact that some of my members may like to play in these they can always go to a CC that actively engages in this sort of event ,that would be a personal choice for them and not involve any 1 else or the CC in their decision.

  Trev

  Owner Laff N Play CC

    Agreed......    You (as well as other owners) have created and nourished your respected CC's accordingly. And I do see where there should be (Owner Discretion) applied. But, as with anything, there's always another side of consideration.  Example: Owner is upset, makes decision that affects all members of the CC (regardless of whether the members agree or not).  These members ultimately pay the price for an Owner decision.  This being said.....  I do agree that an owner should have the control to run, nourish, build, tear down... etc etc... the CC as they see fit.   But the issue, at this point, is that members contribute XP points to the CC, thus vesting their interests in the CC.  These points obviously contribute to the welfare of the CC, by leveling up and opening new items to the CC. Would it be fair to say the following:  All CC owners should have complete control in their respected clubs (in the manner of many previous posts).... but at the same token, each member should have complete control of their XP contributions?  These contributions are easily identified for each WGT member........ should they decide to leave a club, or the owner decide to "boot" the member.... shouldn't they be able to carry their earned points to the new club of their choice... and these points added to the new club and, in turn, deducted from the previous club?  The only reason I bring this attention is......  we have a particular member who has contributed over 250,000 XP points...... and he obviously purchases pass after pass to get to this level, so he does have a personal investment.  When you consider many "regular" players are now exceeding 100,000 XP contributions.......and say one club takes a 10 member hit.... that's 1,000,000 XP points loss for the club,   thus possibly leveling that club "down" a notch.   Food for thought......

  Danny

• DAputts 1,912 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 7:00 AM

  So in light of the latest "Clash Event " I find myself wondering why I own a Country Club.  I am told that I have no real power, I have no real working tools i.e. email system, ability to assign  club officers, ability to scratch tournaments etc.....Why do I put in the 20 or so hrs just doing the administrative things so that my members, my friends can have a good time.  Why do we give prizes, gift balls and clubs....Why...I get nothing for it.  My directors get nothing for doing what they do and they have even less power.....Why....These 31 or 32 pages boil down to me that WGT and their Admins have no respect for Us..Every owner who posted n here about not wanting their club to join this farce...for what ever reason...NO RESPECT...so what would happen if we disbanded.....  

• Fraenkel 2,252 Posts

  Sat, Nov 8 2014 8:08 AM

  DAputts:

  Passion, you did, do and will do just for that, just as many other here, just because (maybe) you love golf (virtual or real, golf is a dimension, take it or leave it) as more as you (we) love the way WGT cares to their customers, as much as good there always a struggling daily scramble against multi accounters (according to the WGT stats), VEM (high) and cheaters (many) at the leaderboards top so less chance to challenge for the real skills we "experienced" during years.

  Problems, issues, no real relationship between customers (players) and staff (those which will have to provide a safe and equal game) apart the customer support and of course, Icon and Bloshoe: they're (probably) not owners but I think they do a lot more than what they get paid. Inconsistency on reaction, features proposal snob off, thief up for virtual products that are paid off after a couple of months 'till they show and sell, no offers, no discounts, no fu**in' present to those which keep fatty the cash and get no real return, and I'm not talking about high stakes winning but just simply listening.

  If you did, do and will do this way as I do and just like many others guys and girls do untill this my arrogant post, you should be proud and honored to be a CC owner in this huge and still brilliant community. No metter if the piss off pain cover the gain.

  Play or you will be played, let the donks still believe they can fly.