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Disagree....it is a HUGE difference. Not only the forgiveness and the sloooow meter speed, but the grip (bs) helps a lot, the ball drop just at the landing, yup, for the players over level 100......wish I had those Vapor but I'm far from the level : /.
Although since I changed from the R11 to the VR Forged at level 97 my GR game has improved enormously and now I can land the ball very close if I ding.
Really, I don't see it....I have the Vapors, Lvl 97 Nikes, and the R11's, and have played all 3 at Chambers...the only difference I see is meter speed, and forgiveness...the 3i/4i in all 3 sets will stop on a flat green the same elevation w/ full b/s...main difference is more dings(or shots hit exactly before or after ding), now Vapor short irons with full b/s are a different story...
the only reason I switched to Vapors was I bought the new wedges and the Vapors made all my clubs the same meter speed, plus the Vapors are more forgiving on slight mishits...as far as stopping 1 seems as good as the other to me....now for me, the Nikes are slightly shorter than r11's with f/b/s which should translate into more spin, but I can't see it in a round, then again my game is so erratic it doesn't surprise me at all...lol
I'll put it this way, I think I only have 1 round with less than 2 eagles, I've had 4 eagles five times, and three out of four rounds with 3 or 4 of them, all using the slope behind the pin on #4 #12 #18 or chipping in...so I play it that way, I don't even try to shoot at the pin...it's the par 3's on the back 9, and several par 4's that kill my rounds.....
I think my last round yesterday was 4 eagles, 6 birdies, 7 pars, 1 bogey...lol