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• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 6:54 AM

  PaulTon:

  YankeeJim:

  Bump and run is what I was thinking and wondering about

  That's why I love this course so much, there are possibilities for great shots using lots of different shot types. I could imagine Trevino thrilling the crowds here with his inventiveness. The topography  (once learned) is going to give us all the chance to try out new ways of doing things. Most courses on here have 1 or 2 holes with quirks that can be used to advantage, Chambers is studded with them.

  Here's just one example of what I mean. I spotted this quirk of the 4th green from the bunker under the green.

  I took what I'd seen and practiced the approach for a few shots  Now this will be my shot of choice, get it right and it's an eagle every time...

   

  super shot, thats the way i like to play that hole using the bank

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 7:15 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Jimbog1964:

  IMO best is throw it up aiming to land pin high / a fraction long and veering just right.

  Have you tried that? I have and "throwing it up there" doesn't stop (level 92 Nike with Vapors.) The shot trajectory sends it in hot and winding up long is not a good risk. Laying up to a pitch is a much better play as that's a 50-50 birdie. 

  Bump and run is what I was thinking and wondering about and that would only be in the absence of a nice headwind. Forget stopping anything with a tail wind.

  Sorry Jim,

  Loads of egg on face.  never checked my notes as had effed once it same as Dan, and was thinking of another higher elevation approach that those notes I posted work fine for, just not this hole.  Shot here is to bump it as close as dare to top of the the face, with BS, and also slightly left of pin.  Still a very tough hole, and pitch is still a "good" chance if short.  What you do want to try and avoid is a long putt back as this hole will feed right if too long, and sods law stays on green (long difficult way away). 

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 11:25 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Discussing this hole in AS last night, one of the comments was "either you're short or long on the approach." I agreed and suggested the right play might be to do exactly as you thought- maybe not ramming the shot but hitting into that upslope with top spin. What happened when you tried it?

  Actually that's how I play the hole...the pin is on the right and I play topspin left of the pin about the middle of the upslope and it feeds down to the pin..., it you go right at it it goes right....IE: 175yds approach- 50ft up...180 w/ topspin adjusting power for winds...usually end up with a decent putt, sometimes a chip from the front, sometimes a short birdie putt...regardless I play it that way regardless of wind, the only time I don't is if I crush a drive with the wind and I can hit a 165 with full b/s....

  last night I pulled the shot w/ the wind and ended up in he!!, made a great recovery shot, and was so busy patting myself on the back I missed a 5ft par putt....lol

  I play those long shots to elevated green a little differently than most I guess...on flatter landing areas that the normal club runs through I figure the distance it plays, go up a club using full b/s and adjust the power and the aim for a very late hit, this softens the landing and the mishit loses distance, usually get me with in 12ft of the pin for a shot at birdie, many times within a foot or two, even made one and hit a pin...tricky shot though, has to be tailwind/against/into the wind and it doesn't work well hitting early for me so I don't even try it....but for some reason I can't dial that shot in on #7....

   

  Good shot Paul!!! I play it even further left than you do and let the ball do a half moon down by the pin...that is I do that now after trying every thing else with very little success, I'll take a 12 ft'er after some of the place I have been anytime... LOL.

• 8buster8 649 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 12:10 PM

  I haven't seen this discussed; will these other tees ever become available?

  The par-3 ninth hole has two different sets of tees, and while you sit at home thinking, What’s so different about that, understand that one tee plays dramatically downhill to a green with bunkers guarding all parts of the right side and the other tee is an uphill carry of some 240 yards. It is two holes in one, something you’ve never seen before on a golf course and definitely never seen before in a major championship.

  (from this)

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 12:34 PM

  fatdan:

  the pin is on the right and I play topspin left of the pin about the middle of the upslope and it feeds down to the pin.

  After posing that question and before I saw your answer, I went to CB7 through the community tab to play around with it. The greens are only standard and the tee is forward but a 3i gets you to the right area for the approach.

  I played around with the 6i and ts (180), the 195 5i with bs and a 4i punch (194). Back spin seemed to be the least desirable on anything, causing carry problems. The punch tended to run through but putting back spin on it caused it to come up short. 

  The best shot of the lot turned out to be a 5i with partial spin so it released on landing but on standard greens that didn't mean much. 

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 1:34 PM

  Yeah it has mixed results, but once you figure it out they are usually better than trying to hold the green and going long...last night I had a strong tailwind and only had 134 in, hit the 150 club 3/4 backspin and straight to the back right of the green with a nasty 54ft putt...

  I'll take the chip from in front of it anytime over that putt even though I almost made it after lookin at the SOB for 5 minutes...lol

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 1:51 PM

  That hole I have only been close using some BS, and more for fairy dust.  bump just at that front seems a good option.  If there is another way great, but not seen it.  I think it's possible to over think it all though, and a bump at that front (close as dare to the top) and let it run in.  Tough hole and a couple of goes via community link at least lets you know which way it is all going to run.  

  I have been tap in close bird, and had to putt from 12 feet easy also, and pitched in one round from the front to nail a bird.......Not a hole to miss the ding on by much at all, and then fingers crossed.  

  More than one way to skin a cat..Good course like that.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 2:08 PM

  fatdan:

  I'll take the chip from in front of it anytime over that putt

  I'm discovering the pitch is really suited to this course. Most of the places you would use a pitch have you shooting to an elevated landing. Even from sand the pitch is not running out of control and is quite sinkable. Think #4 where the second shot comes up short in 30-40 rough or sand. You're about 13 yds away in either and a fbs 64W pitch rolls and slows nice from there.

  IMO, the CG64W pitch is a birdie saver.  :-)

• borntobesting 9,710 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 3:02 PM

  fatdan:

  Yeah it has mixed results, but once you figure it out they are usually better than trying to hold the green and going long...last night I had a strong tailwind and only had 134 in, hit the 150 club 3/4 backspin and straight to the back right of the green with a nasty 54ft putt...

  I'll take the chip from in front of it anytime over that putt even though I almost maa bde it after lookin at the SOB for 5 minutes...lol

  A better option from 134 might have been the 150 yard 8 iron punched. It punches to 134 and you can control the distance by changing spin. uphill just punch the  8 and add top spin. Much like JY taught many of us to do on #13 at Merion.

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Wed, May 6 2015 5:01 PM

  Cuts at 57 already...that sucks LOL...looks like I'm out, 57 seems to be all I am capable of..