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112 PW ERROR

• ThunderBoltz 740 Posts

  Thu, Dec 30 2010 5:38 PM

  What the ?? I was on Hole 1 on St. Andrews with a 17 mph helping wind from left to right so I aimed my PW little left and added a little spin. Well It doesn't even REACH the Green. It hit's right in the middle of the creek!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then on my drop ball it went into the Creek with a little spin and little over half of 25 with 13 yards to th hole.

   

  What happend bug log WGT. I want to know why this happend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   

  Thanks,         Waste of TWO Golf BALLS!

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Thu, Dec 30 2010 7:49 PM

  The operative words are, "a little left". You should have aimed a lot more to the left then a little to the left with a 17 MPH wind. The wind knocked down the momentum of the ball to climb, and carried to the right, right?

  I think you didn't allow enough for the aim, and/or didn't hit with enough power to make the shot. Not a bug there, IMO.

• dorkfeatures 712 Posts

  Thu, Dec 30 2010 9:51 PM

  Hi Thunder

  It happened because you miscalculated your shot. You dont give any details of the shot so I cant do a quick calc for you.  I am no expert , but I have been around a few years - so I've played that shot a couple of times lol. That short pitch to the green with the pin in the front, plays a lot lot longer than you think.

  A 17 mph wind from left to right - is NOT helping !! So you need to aim well left, the wind is really going to push your shot to the right, especially a PW. 

  So - because you need to hit well left, and into that cross wind you need to add a significant amount of power to the shot. That wind is going to hold your ball up big time, + if you add back spin, the ball will drop quicker - so you need to compensate for that by adding more power again to the shot. Also do forget to compensate for elevation - thats more power again. It all adds up.

  All up compensating will add maybe 10% power to the basic calculated shot. (If there was no wind) 

  Thats my take on it.

  Dont forget to learn from your mistakes. Having hit the ball with a certain strength of power and seen the end result, do some quick maths, replay the shot and add on the extra yardage you think you need to get the ball there. The next time you come to that hole, check back to your calcs - and chances are, you wont make that mistake again.

  The more you play that shot the better you'll get at it, then the birds will come.

  Good luck, and Happy New Year.

  Cheers

  Doug

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 5:17 AM

  I've hosed myself the same way. With that pin up front shots that need room to land and roll, like a punch, have to be perfect or they wind up in the drink before they hit the ground. Any kind of high shot with backspin that lands short, or gets knocked down by wind, will wind up trickling back down to the hazard. Been there, done that.  :-)

• BriRock 148 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 9:19 AM

  ThunderBoltz:

  What happend bug log WGT. I want to know why this happend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   

  There is no bug...when you go below or even around half power on a any club, it certainly does not carry the ball like it would at full power...for example a 25 yard shot, using a 50 yard wedge, must be hit at or around 35 yards for the ball to carry close to 20 and that's with no wind factored in at all. (full backspin will help the ball stop). 

  A bit of advice if you happen to encounter this shot again, with the pin up front of course.  Don't be afraid to hit the ball passed the hole a bit.  I know everyone wants to land short, and roll the ball in the cup, but landing too short gets you all wet.  Attempting to land the ball just before the pin and allowing it to roll out a few yards is not a bad move.  The green is basically dead flat around that pin placement and birdie is an easy score from even 7 - 8 yards away in any direction.

  Golf is about minimizing chances for disaster and capitalizing when easier opportunities present themselves...don't be blinded by what you might accomplish and completely miss what might go wrong.  Sure you might make an eagle if the ball rolls in, but you if hit it short in the water, you're playing for a one putt bogey.  There's a line between when you should play conservatively, and when you should take a chance.  The hard part is learning exactly when to do what...A conservative golfer makes usually beats and aggressive one.

• Hanswurst72 1,097 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 9:43 AM

  dorkfeatures:

  if you add back spin, the ball will drop quicker

   

  This is some physical fail! Backspin increases the upward momentum of the ball and increases the carry length while decreasing the amount of roll. Thats a fact. In how far WGT thought of it might be another question.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 9:48 AM

  Hanswurst72:

  Backspin increases the upward momentum of the ball and increases the carry length

  But has a shorter trajectory because of the height giving the illusion it drops quicker.

• Hanswurst72 1,097 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 5:38 PM

  

  That would be the model of a (not existing!) topspin shot. The backspin shot has the same force in the opposite, upward direction (so-called Magnus-effect). The carry length in reality is increased by this effect! Just in some rare occasions with massive wind blowing in your face, the ball might remain shorter because of its higher trajectory. Thats the theory... but in how far does it correspond to this game?

• borntobesting 9,709 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 6:24 PM

  Hanswurst72:

  

  That would be the model of a (not existing!) topspin shot. The backspin shot has the same force in the opposite, upward direction (so-called Magnus-effect). The carry length in reality is increased by this effect! Just in some rare occasions with massive wind blowing in your face, the ball might remain shorter because of its higher trajectory. Thats the theory... but in how far does it correspond to this game?

  Against a strong wind backspin can and will balloon and get knocked down much sooner than topspin which bores through the wind better. Actually it is not top spin as such just lessened backspin. The only way to actually hit a ball with topspin is to top the ball and we have all done that in real life.

• TextMyPC 232 Posts

  Fri, Dec 31 2010 8:22 PM

  • If you don't ding the shot...you lose distance
  • The more you miss the ding, the more distance you lose
  • The more spin your ball has, even hitting center ball, the less distance you'll get
  • The more draw you apply to the ball, the more distance you'll lose
  • A crosswind can be misleading in that it tips down which will pull the ball down.
  • The game is loaded with bugs and the physics are wrong which is why it's breaking a record for BETA time. Don't expect it to be real.

  Any 1 or combination would cause that shot to happen. You are coerced into learning WGT golf which is not analogous to real golf.

  TMPC