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Thu, Nov 12 2015 3:32 PM (31 replies)
  • Jhorn188
    40 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 9:41 AM

    MTBR:

    The tie breaker rule is fine as long as the software is calculating it correctly as the rules state. We have no way of comparing scorecards to see if it is. What i have noticed is it takes the latest entry that ties and puts it on top as the winner. I may be wrong but that is what I'm seeing in my CC, and it is the same calculations for every other tournament. I used to laugh at being able to wait until other scores were posted and then be able to tie the leader at a later date and it put me on top as the sole winner. Something is wrong with that.

    I've only played here for a little over a month, but I can tell you your theory of latest entry to be the winner is definitely incorrect (from what I have seen as well as experienced first hand). I have so far no reason whatsoever to believe that the tiebreaker rule wouldn't be calculated correctly....except in your case...

    ...I still can't see how you could get 144 extra credits and thus 2 players got 360. Then support is saying 2 players can share first which should be impossible with the tiebreaker rule in the FAQ.

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 9:56 AM

    Support made a mistake by giving me those credits I'm sure.(I couldn't care less about the credits}  If all else fails,

    "the earlier-submitted entry between or among the tied entries will be deemed the better scoring entry."

    But it seems to be working backwards. No way of knowing. I was just wondering if it was working correctly as most of this software has problems. They can have the credits back if they want to. The other thing I noticed was the way some support staff members don't even know what the tie breaker rule is and neither did I until now.

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 11:25 AM

    MTBR:

    "the earlier-submitted entry between or among the tied entries will be deemed the better scoring entry."

    But it seems to be working backwards. No way of knowing.

    Just because you post a 29 and there was already a 29, doesn't mean the system is broke.

     

    The first 29 could have been - bird, bird, bird, par, par, bird, bird, bird, bird.

    Yours may have been par, par-then birdie out.

    Both 29's but the 2nd 29 was the "better" 29, via the tie breaker rule.

    Just ask in your club for those entering a tourney to post (or write down) their scorecard so you can compare.

     

    I might add, the "earlier entry" only counts if all other tiebreaker rules show the cards to be the same (via the rules)-i/e assuming the first tiebreaker rule is the last 6 holes a par, and eagle and 4 birds is the same as 6 birds, so the cards do not have to be identical.

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 5:50 PM

    "I might add, the "earlier entry" only counts if all other tiebreaker rules show the cards to be the same (via the rules)-i/e assuming the first tiebreaker rule is the last 6 holes a par, and eagle and 4 birds is the same as 6 birds, so the cards do not have to be identical."

     

    OK smart man, explain this i found: read the very last sentence

     

    In-Game Skill Based Competitions

    As part of regular WGT game play, WGT may sponsor and give you the opportunity to participate in Competitions ("Competitions"). You must be over the age of 13 to participate and no purchase or payment is necessary to participate in such Competitions. The odds of obtaining WGT Credits in Competitions depend on the number of eligible participants in and their relative skill in the Competitions.

    Competitions, where the winner obtains a physical or tangible prize, are open to individuals who are 18 years of age or older or the age of majority in the entrant's state or province/territory of residence, whichever is greater. To participate in a Competition where the winner obtains a physical or tangible prize, you must not be a resident of or be physically located at the time of play (a) the United States who resides in Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Illinois, Louisiana, Maryland, Montana, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, or Vermont, or be subject to the laws of one of those states, (b) Brazil, Argentina, the People's Republic of China, South Korea, Japan, or (c) any other jurisdiction that WGT excludes in its sole discretion. To participate in certain Competitions where the winner obtains a physical or tangible prize, you may be required to submit to WGT documentation to verify your eligibility and to verify your age and/or residency and, if the physical or tangible prizes you have obtained in a given year have a value over $600, a completed W-9 tax form.

    Employees, officers, and directors of WGT and its affiliated entities, parent, subsidiaries, advertising, promotional agencies, legal advisors, their immediate family members and persons living in their same household, are not eligible to enter or participate in Competitions. Void where restricted, taxed or prohibited by law. Individuals that obtain WGT Credits in the Competitions will be determined and announced on or about the fifteenth (15th) calendar day following each monthly Competition and between one (1) and three (3) weeks following each weekly Competition. In the event of a tie, the participant that entered the Competition earlier will obtain the WGT Credits.

     

    Completely different from what the tie breaker rule states in the FAQ

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 7:38 PM

    In fact every tournament rules link goes to that exact page in Terms and Conditions.....there is no tie breaker rule implemented. Only the EARLIEST entry in a tie will win. Period.  My problem is its working backwards. The latest entry is winning in my case. I was in 1st by myself and glad to be there, then on the same exact day of the month (Oct. 15th) maybe hours later, another player ties and jumps into 1st place above me. Seems the FAQ page needs to be changed to what the tournament rules state. Of course, WGT support would send me to the wrong link.

  • oneeyedjohn
    9,581 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 7:58 PM

    Could it be that the other guy signed up before u, but didn't actually play it until later, probably after you.

    Took me yonks to realise one could actually sign up only and then just leave it until later.

    Like what we all do just to get the WGT free ball.

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 8:09 PM

    Very good! And very possible! Didn't think about that... the coincidence was, in a monthly single play, he played on the same exact day I did (out of 31 days)(Oct.15th). Or, at least posted a score on that date, after me of course. But you're right he may have signed up on Day 1....Hmmmm....strategy there.. Thx alot for the tip...lol

     

    Soooo, the software actually goes by when you sign up rather than when you post your score.......that makes perfect sense   ....  Key word being earliest "ENTRY" wins in a tie.

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 8:31 PM

     

    MTBR:
    Completely different from what the tie breaker rule states in the FAQ

     

    What you have posted is not relevant to tie breakers, so I ask you...

     

    What is your point here?

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 8:51 PM

    MBaggese:

    What you have posted is not relevant to tie breakers, so I ask you...

    What is your point here?

     

    .Read the very last sentence and you will see it's relevant to tie breakers ....."Sun must have been in your eyes !", like you tell Legends you try to bully.  You need to increase that WIN column a little more against Legends, they might be on to you.

     

    edit:     Here i will do it for you. You seem to have trouble somehow. 

    In the event of a tie, the participant that entered the Competition earlier will obtain the WGT Credits."

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 8 2015 9:05 PM

    The Leadbetter swing challenge is the ONLY one I can find that implements the tie breaker rule that you are referring to. Only the BIG tourneys will implement this. The weekly and monthly DO NOT.

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