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High ding rate = cheating?

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 8:05 PM

  Lonnie...

   

  Just curious, when do you call yourself out for "beating a dead horse"?

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 8:33 PM

  MBaggese:

  Lonnie...

   

  Just curious, when do you call yourself out for "beating a dead horse"?

  I grew up with 4 sisters M so they taught me well when it comes to getting the last word in . Besides I will always respond to people when they talk to me . Its not about Q my responses are to those who adress posts to me Like you or dan ofr Willy and so forth . See me I understand that its over and done with . Its your friends who seem to not have a clue not me . Just as my last post was a reply to another player so to am I replying to you

  But why dont you ask your friends this same question . The ones who have been crying since last month about how unfair WGT has been with this issue . If you dont have anything to say to them why are you saying anything to me . Oh let me guess you doing a lip lock on Qs zipper too ?

   

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 8:49 PM

  lonniescott711:

  But why dont you ask your friends this same question . The ones who have been crying since last month about how unfair WGT has been with this issue . If you dont have anything to say to them why are you saying anything to me . Oh let me guess you doing a lip lock on Qs zipper too ?

  Naw Lonnie

   

  Now you're just showing us all what an idiot you really are.

   

    So you popped in a few times to tell everyone to let the thread die..

   

  Am I right?

   

  So those who YOU were telling that too, responded to YOU.

   

  Yet by your own admission-at least twice-you've wanted to "let the thread die"...but yet you still come back for more

   

  Dan-notice the capital D...and yes I noticed your lack of capitalization when referring to Dan, said it best...basically if you don't like the thread...just move along.

   

  Yet...you just can't...can ya?

   

  As far as your zipper comment to me..well..if you were in talking range to me, not across the internet trying to be cute...you probably would be taking meals through a straw for the next 6 months.

  But please, carry on and be the azshat that you are, it's so endearing.

   

  Oh...had you noticed my 2 or 3 earlier replies to this thread...well never mind.

   

  And PS, I did PM my one friend in this thread and suggested he tone it down...tis what "friends" do, in virtual world or the "real" world...I don't need to have met this person fo coffee, slept on that persons couch, looked over that persons shoulder while they played WGT or watched 30 gay midget wrestling porn films, to know that person is my "friend", here on WGT.

   

  I guess you just don't get that, do ya?

   

• mkg335 5,491 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 9:07 PM

  I'm calling a timeout in the name of...

  

• JimbeauC 5,835 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 11:08 PM

  So. 

  I've been watching this thread for forever, at least it seems like. Have I read every word? No. 

  Just some of my thoughts. 

  1. I have good days and bad. I certainly hope that WGT isn't monitoring my good ones. 

  2. I can ding every shot and still end up with a bogey. (Lipoutitis)

  3. I can misding every shot and still end up with a bird. (Thank you forgiving putter.)

  4. Sigh. I'm no computer whiz but I could write an otto. WGT actually made this easier with one of their innovations of a while back. NO. I won't write one for you. 

  5. Given the above, it appears it would be prudent for hackers to only use an otto for approaches. 

  6. If you don't know how to read the putt dots, it doesn't matter much anyway, unless you're really good at #5 and can really nail them close. 

  7. If you can't do #4, just spend 20 credits on your approaches. As long as you are buying your cheats from WGT, all is good. 

  8. Regarding the original question of whether a specific player is cheating. Don't know. Guess what? Don't care either. 

• 1,866 Posts

  Thu, Aug 4 2016 11:40 PM

  lonniescott711:

  Because no one cares  not really

  I care. I hope that's allowed and you don't object ;-) 

  We all get that WGT is not bloody likely to change their minds, but WE do not care. Most of us are expressing objections to the way WGT handled this. Despite its (almost certain) futility, can we? Please?

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Fri, Aug 5 2016 12:11 AM

  JimbeauC:

  5. Given the above, it appears it would be prudent for hackers to only use an otto for approaches. 

  Alternatively they could use a cheat that actually exists and choose where they hit.  Keep it all just near, but seldom on and the new super dooper echo sounder gets as flumaxed as the person taking snap shot counts ?...........Simply crazy giving a verdict describing an item they assume might exist in a 5th dimension ?...........Back on earth where we are only just getting to grips with anti matter it's simply absurd..........

  Hope that comes across OK.  We did some asking around, and that was our findings.  What is known is that  WGT went on record as banning him for using something they have not yet discovered. (with all the new resources at TG ? on hand?)

  Good rest of post if may say, but wanted to comment specifically on 4 for clarity if anyone new reads (full WGT issued verdict page 6).

• DodgyPutter 4,690 Posts

  Fri, Aug 5 2016 4:27 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  EDIT: May I suggest we just let what is becomming largely a small side discussion go.  It's all been said and you and I talking at cross purposes (no blame either side if we can agree) is not going to be useful.

  I agree we are talking at cross purposes but  I don't agree it's a small side issue, it is trying to find something approaching a fact in all this, anyway I'm going to have one last try.  This is not an attack, I'm just looking for clarification on something, I think we all want to know.  What wgt count in their ding percentage when they talk about it. None in this thread seem to know but it seems to me possible to find out, yet despite my asking numerous times nobody seems to want to help.

  In the -8 round at St A's wgt have said he dinged at 40%, so we have a figure (my mentioning it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he was cheating).  You have watched it (don't know if you still have access to, if so just post a link and I'll do it). All that needs done is a bit of counting..... some examples:

  If all shots were counted  11 dings would be  39.3%, 12=42.9%.  Excluding putts is harder as I don't know how many he had; (9 from the tee and 8-10 shots from the f/way so there would be 17-19 shots).  7 dings out of 17 is 41.2%, 7 from 18 38.9% and 8 from 19 42.1%.  The only way I can see that we wouldn't know what they counted would be if he only dinged 3 or 4 putts.

  I really can't see why this hasn't been done, or why it's suggested I stop posting for suggesting it.  

• WigerToods2010 8,447 Posts

  Fri, Aug 5 2016 5:13 AM

  Had a read at page 6 once again. Had a read at the replies from RDG members.

  I can see not an ounce of proof absolute that the player banned was guilty or innocent from either camp. I can understand wgt not posting here exactly what happened. I can't understand why nobody from RDG has posted proof absolute that the player is in fact innocent.

  All I know is the player, according to the owners of the site, broke THEIR T&C's. That will do for me meantime.

  Any RDG members that can post anything whatsoever to convince me otherwise and I'll happily change my opinion. I'm afraid the 'word' of the banned member just does not cut it for me.

  Until that happens then good on ya wgt for at least attempting to rid the game of the cheating bar stewards. It's what we all want, yeah?

  Wouldn't worry about the banned player - we all know the routine - he/she is, as stated by others, probably back playing already.

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Fri, Aug 5 2016 7:10 AM

  MBaggese:

  lonniescott711:

  But why dont you ask your friends this same question . The ones who have been crying since last month about how unfair WGT has been with this issue . If you dont have anything to say to them why are you saying anything to me . Oh let me guess you doing a lip lock on Qs zipper too ?

  Naw Lonnie

   

  Now you're just showing us all what an idiot you really are.

   

    So you popped in a few times to tell everyone to let the thread die..

   

  Am I right?

   

  So those who YOU were telling that too, responded to YOU.

   

  Yet by your own admission-at least twice-you've wanted to "let the thread die"...but yet you still come back for more

   

  Dan-notice the capital D...and yes I noticed your lack of capitalization when referring to Dan, said it best...basically if you don't like the thread...just move along.

   

  Yet...you just can't...can ya?

   

  As far as your zipper comment to me..well..if you were in talking range to me, not across the internet trying to be cute...you probably would be taking meals through a straw for the next 6 months.

  But please, carry on and be the azshat that you are, it's so endearing.

   

  Oh...had you noticed my 2 or 3 earlier replies to this thread...well never mind.

   

  And PS, I did PM my one friend in this thread and suggested he tone it down...tis what "friends" do, in virtual world or the "real" world...I don't need to have met this person fo coffee, slept on that persons couch, looked over that persons shoulder while they played WGT or watched 30 gay midget wrestling porn films, to know that person is my "friend", here on WGT.

   

  I guess you just don't get that, do ya?

   

  Actually Baggs if you are going to tell the story then tell the whole story . You go back and you will see that I was following this thread from the very start  which was 7/18. Go read pages 1,3,5,7,11,13,and 16 which happened to be my last post which was on 7/21 . It was 8/3 when I posted anything about letting this go and thats on page31 . When I saw this thread was still going and it was useless banter was the reason for my response .

  So from the start I looked at this all kinds of ways and commented as well . Just because I wont jump on the save Q band wagon doesnt make me an idiot but your reply shows that you are . As for you putting your hands on me in the real world you probably would . But I guarantee you wouldnt live to talk about it because I would blow your brains out . Just that simple at 55 years old I dont take well with people putting their hands on me that way and you wouldnt be the exception .

  Where I come from friends are people that you truly engage with and spend time with . You dont really know anyone in the virtual world or real world . For all you know in the real world Q could be a serial killer drug dealer you dont know . Look at how many people have been jacked up and killed by people they have met on Craigs list .

  So if you dont like what I have to say then dont read my post because everything you say to me also applies to you and your cheerleader crew . So after 3 weeks and 30+ pages later what have we all learned ? What else needs to be said or done concerning this issue ? Is there any member and friend of Q who has anything I mean anything that can prove without question that Q is innocent then do so .

  Prove that WGT doesnt have the means or ability to prove when a person is cheating or using cheat software . Not what you think but what you can prove then do so but until they are guilty of cheating as charged . Have a nice day . :-)

  Oh I would appreciate it if you trolls would stop taking snipets of my posts and making issues with them . You see how I used all of Baggs post to respond and voice my opinion .Please do the same so those who come in late can follow and understand .