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Tue, Mar 14 2017 11:27 AM (11 replies)
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  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2017 2:40 PM

    am new to the game and advanced to the third level (pro) but finding it harder to compete even against lower rated players due to use of standard clubs.  am trying to build up some credits to upgrade clubs.  not sure if buying a set or  piecing together a set is the best route.  seems if I piece together a set, the meter speed could fluctuate for each club and make it harder to get the timing down.  one thread suggested you may not need the hybrid after getting a good driver and good set of irons.  the wedges would have to be separate.  it is looking like It may take upwards of 4000 credits just to get a decent bag to compete fairly as you move up.  have been paired a couple times against higher tier players and they drive the ball a good 80 beyond me even when they play from different tees.  seems absurd and takes the enjoyment out of it.  my tablet/android also has coins provided but there seems to be little use for those except for weekly rentals but if you were to buy coins they cost nearly the same as the credit tokens.  whats the point of even having the coins then? have enjoyed progressing but now it seems I may have to spend money on a free game to continue to enjoy playing or face being outmatched or rather dominated by players with higher quality clubs.  seems like paying to pay for virtual golf starts to lose its appeal when you see scores like 52 on the leaderboard.  I can't even reach some par 4's on Bethpage and a few other holes.  any help or advice would be helpful.  sorry for rambling.

  • alosso
    21,073 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2017 8:59 PM

    IMHO, you aren't advanced enough in level (L33) to take profit of a set. You also have to think of the consequences of any purchase: You will be promoted to the next tiers faster, and with the move to "longer" teeboxes as a Master, you may need new clubs. Then agains as a Legend.

    A budget way to improve the equipment is to buy a decent 3WD (R1?) to replace the driver.

    Next, get two short wedges, e.g. the ATV at L40.

    Search here for more information on good equipment.

    Don't touch the putter until you know that you are better than it is (e.g. the Daytona at L55).

     

  • HackWilson1930
    1,437 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2017 3:49 AM

    First thing is to play every day. It really doesn't matter how you do; it is just most important to keep the consecutive day streak going. The reason is that your level at this point is far more important than your tier.

    You have not even played a month yet and you have fallen into the WGT trap; that is the desire to get equipment to  so that you can advance. There is a long game here ( not the one from the tee but the one involving how far you go without spending huge amounts) that involves getting to levels in the 80's. This is far easier to do in today's WGT because of the way they treat consecutive days played.

    For the dedicated and "cheap" WGTer there are many ways to get "free" credits. Perhaps you have already been viewing videos on your mobile device. Depending on how things are going, it is possible to get 50 credits with this method. If WGT does not have the system on some kind of limit, you might get 300 or more credits. By multitasking while I watch TV, I can "watch" videos to obtain credits.

    Check the offers that some of the advertising partners have. Perhaps there is something that you are already planning to spend money on that has a credit offer. I have purchased shoes through one deal and a bicycle pump through another and got credits as a bonus.

    Surveys can be a way to pick up credits. I feel that the better ones are available using a PC, but some show up in the mobile platform offers. At various times I have found them to be lucrative but they often do suck you in and after a few minutes give you the "sorry, you don't qualify" message. The Peanut ones on the PC often do give you 5 credits when this happens.

    As you have discerned, the "coins" are worthless! Don't even consider using money to get them.

    Having discovered this forum, you are on the right path. There are many here who will give you the advice about equipment that you are seeking; just try to remember that the game can get additive and expensive if you do not use some restraint.

  • phred952
    2,714 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2017 10:02 AM

    Do not buy any iron set until you can get the L59 Ping G25's.  They are the first irons with high trajectory available, and they are a hugh game changer.

  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Sat, Mar 11 2017 11:55 AM

    thanks for taking the time to respond alosso, hack, phred.  

    while I haven't been playing long, I somehow got leveled up to pro status, possibly because I took a free rental driver and ended up getting a reasonable score on one of my ranked rounds.  now without having the upgraded equipment I am currently playing with standard equipment from the pro t's and finding myself outdrove by hacks and amateur's not to mention pro's and above with better equipment.  was just trying to level the playing field but may have been caught in the WGT level/tier challenge that nearly forces you to upgrade equipment.  have only been playing for a week or two and already getting drawn in. 

    I have taken to watching the videos as hack suggested to build some credits but that takes time and maybe I can level up some in the meantime to open some of the new gear mentioned in your responses.  appreciate all the feedback!

     

  • keidan
    311 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2017 9:44 AM

    Here is a thread worth reading to the end with good advice/information by veterans to a player close to your situation.  Enjoy!  -Keith

  • EasyEdward
    13,507 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2017 10:04 AM

    Here is my advice:

    The Frugal Player's WGT Club Upgrade Approach


    Whether purchasing credits is within your means and you determine that you will spend real money or you intend to watch videos and fill out surveys; there is no reason to spend WGT credits foolishly.

     

    This post will explain one method of maximally purchasing 2 improvements for each item in your bag and having what you need to face the challenges of the Legend Tier.  This approach should get you to Legend Tier within a budget of 20,000 credits.

     

    WGT offers numerous clubs and balls to purchase that enhance your ability to play better (lower your score).  This post is not an attempt to judge the merits of all of the offerings but rather to give an outline of what is generally needed, when and why. 


    At this time a new member of WGT receives the starter clubs and one somewhat more advanced club: The Max Driver Level 0 with a 230 yard average distance.  These clubs are all sufficient for the hack and amateur levels.

     

    FIRST:  Once you run out of the good balls that WGT gives a new player the frugal player does not use their precious credits buying balls.  Rather they save for clubs for the simple reason that the expensive balls better distance or spin will not be realized with clubs that WGT gives you. I recommend either playing with the starter ball, or the 10 credit WGT BES ball (at most the 64 credit GI2-S or the 65 credit Tour SD).

     

    When the Pro level is attained clubs and club purchases start to take on added significance.


    Below is an outline of what you will need on a journey to and including Legend Tier. Please note these are not in the order one should purchase them.

     

    Driver

    Off the Pro tees the first thing you will find is that 230 yards is not sufficient a distance for a driver on a number of holes on many courses. You will also note the starter iron set is not long enough for a number of holes off the Pro and Tour Pro Tees for your approach shot.  However, a player reaching the Pro Tier has very limited options due to the level needed for a frugal set of club purchases.

     

    My advice is to play on with all the starters and save credits by waiting until you reach Level 48 and purchase the R-1 driver rated at 275 yards.  If however it is too frustrating for you to wait a viable inexpensive driver is the WGT Pro 9.5 driver at 250 yards and just 250 credits until the L-48 R-1 is available. However, the 250 yards off the Master tees will be too short for many of the same holes the 230 does not work off the Pro Tees so it is a short term fix.

     

    Once the credits are in hand and Level 48 is attained; the R-1 takes care of two problems at once. The fairways are all reachable and your starter irons are now long enough to allow reaching all the Par 4s in 2. The R-1 is good enough that no further driver purchase is needed until you reach the 80s in Levels and are closing in on or already a Legend.

     

    Wedges


    Your wedges are the backbone of your game.  There are a number of types available each with different attributes. Generally the WGT wedges should be avoided as well as any wedge until the late 20s in level. At that point the Cleveland, ATV and Ping wedges start becoming available.  The objective is to replace your 50 and 75 yard WGT starters with something comparable. A third wedge can be added but decide which irons you will be getting first so you know which longer wedge to get.  General rule of thumb is to evenly space as close as possible your wedges and iron set’s pitching wedge.

     

    If you have enough credits set aside for the R-1 then start buying wedges at these lower levels before anything else. In yardage terms 60, 80 and 100 or 50, 75 and 100 are perfect - knowing that someday you will have an iron set with a Pitching Wedge of 110 to 120 yards.

     

    Wedges should be upgraded to the higher level wedges when they become available but that will not be until you have a Level of over 80.

     

    Irons


    Lots of different thoughts here the R-11 irons in the 30s are used by many well into the Master tier, but by the time you have your R-1 in your bag two other sets are either available or close to being available. The Level 40s Max slow meter irons are one and the level 50s Ping G-20 which was less expensive before they became the G-25s is the other set.  Both are playable as a Tour Master and again need not be replaced until you are in the 80s level.

     

    My advice would be to either go for the R-11s or wait for Max Meter set rather than the G25s just for cost purposes. The biggest problem however with that recommendation is that the 200 / 205 yard distance for the 3-Iron is tough off the Master tees on a few holes even with the R-1 in your bag.

     

    3 Wood


    The three wood is not used very often so it should be the last purchase for the frugal player.

     

    Once again there are many options.

     

    Off the Master tees you will need a 230 or 235 yard 3 wood. By Legend you will need a 240 or 245 yard 3 wood. A medium high or high trajectory is helpful to hold the greens when using the 3 wood for an approach shot.  


    Putter


    The starter putter is pretty darn good. Many call it the best club that WGT gives you for free. It certainly can be used until in the Master tier. The ultimate in frugality is to purchase just one putter – the Level 55 Daytona Rossa. Many Legends use it to very good effect. Most however replace their first putter with a higher level one; two good choices appear to be the Versa or the Nike.

     

    Balls


    Your ball selection is numerous and can, within a short period of time, become your largest expense. Another post goes in to the attributes of many of the offerings made by WGT so no attempt will be made to repeat that here.  The frugal player will however initially minimize the cost of balls in order to save credits to purchase clubs by playing with free or 10 credit balls. Once credits are on hand and club purchases are underway a better ball does offer advantages, but the frugal player does not jump immediately to a 450 credit ball that last 15 rounds.

     

    WGT offers two balls that are relatively inexpensive, The 64 credit GI2-S and the 65 credit Tour SD. It should be noted the GI2-S balls last longer than the Tour SD so they are even less expensive than they appear.

     

    When the frugal player has determined that credits are being set aside at an appropriate level for the final round of club upgrades the time has come to determine which ball type is within their budget. Included in that consideration is what your clubs and needs are for game performance. High Spin clubs do not require high spin balls; faster speed clubs may require a ball with a slower meter; now and only then should they invest in more expensive balls.

  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2017 10:54 AM

    thank you so much for the detailed response.  didn't realize it was you that sent the friend request, just saw a highly rated player I would never be able to compete with given the clubs in your bag.  have started to save credits but all the comments made are relevant.  I just lack length off the tee from the pro t's and have to play long par 4's as par 5's or hope to get it up and down in one putt.  still advancing by levels but the std clubs put me at a disadvantage even against reasonable good hacks and amatuers due to loss of distance off the tee.  was unfortunate/fortunate to should a reasonable good round with a free demo club driver on Bethpage that possibly advanced me to pro so quickly.  once that club left my bag after 2 hours, I have been left on pro t's with std driver.  trying to level up in the meantime to open new clubs such as you recommended.  thanks for your advice

  • pmm711
    5,711 Posts
    Sun, Mar 12 2017 11:25 AM

    EasyEdward:

    Here is my advice:

    The Frugal Player's WGT Club Upgrade Approach

    Here's another example of why anyone with questions should just wall post EasyEd and ask to become a member of The Peoples Club.  Once there you've found a home for your entire WGT life.  Take note...these guys at Peoples know their stuff.

     

  • BPeterson8256
    2,914 Posts
    Mon, Mar 13 2017 6:28 AM

    Games are all about having fun. One piece of advice I don't see often, is to spend a little money if it makes the game more fun for you. A credit is 1 penny. Is it worth the time to watch videos and take surveys for a couple dollars an hour? Perhaps. I would rather be playing though. The advice given on being frugal buying clubs is great advice. There are bottom level Cleveland wedges that are dirt cheap and play great. The L19 (I think) Calaway 3w plays great and will work for driving until L48. etc. etc.. Back to my point. I have kept track of every penny spent. It has cost me about 68 cents an hour to have a ton of fun, and to distract me from a cold winter. I call that cheap entertainment. That cost will drop drastically now that I am done buying clubs for a year or more. I would guess it will get down below 50 cents an hour. I know many complain about the cost of this game, but I challenge you to find a cheaper hobby. Heck!, when I was a kid (80's) We pumped 50 cents at a time in to a "Versus Golf" game that lasted less than 15 minutes. ...and that was after walking 20 miles in 5 feet of snow up hill both ways to the arcade. Play happy.

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