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Sat, Sep 5 2020 5:30 AM (165 replies)
  • kavvz
    2,195 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 6:26 AM

    Champ, was also wondering if you could comment as to the reason(s) the new tier progression was average and ranked rounds, and not something like fmags suggested a while back?  Software limitations, cultural, wait for Hall of Fame!!! :) 

    Surely, you realize that given enough time (probably won't take that long), that TC will just be C by another name.

    Happy Holidays! 

  • Robert1893
    7,722 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 6:28 AM

    kavvz:
    Surely, you realize that given enough time (probably won't take that long), that TC will just be C by another name.

    Exactly! 

  • Fanling2002
    1,149 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:18 AM

    For the first move to TC , the average score seems indeed to have been 55 and the number of rounds 200.

     

     

  • lonniescott711
    4,206 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:53 AM

    Robert1893:

    kavvz:
    Surely, you realize that given enough time (probably won't take that long), that TC will just be C by another name.

    Exactly! 

    Come come now , lets not act like this is anything new . We have all seen this before with the other new tier additions . By this coming June or July the crying will start and come the next virtual open , it will be in full mass . The top players will always dominate the game no matter the tier .

    The Red Tee Bandits will steal their way into the tier as usual and then cry , because they cant compete . Others will actually play their way in and wont be able to compete as well . So until WGT actually create a true tier that can only be reached by certain conditions this problem will remain .

     As I stated earlier if they would take the top 200 - 250 earners and then add the top 100 every year after , problem solved .

     

  • BPeterson8256
    2,913 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 8:40 AM

    lonniescott711:

    The Red Tee Bandits will steal their way into the tier as usual and then cry , because they cant compete . Others will actually play their way in and wont be able to compete as well . So until WGT actually create a true tier that can only be reached by certain conditions this problem will remain .

     As I stated earlier if they would take the top 200 - 250 earners and then add the top 100 every year after , problem solved .

    Who is stealing? I love playing red tees at times. I thought the point was to have fun. 

    Top earnings wouldn't stop people from buying their way up. I have seen plenty of players that have made 4 or 5 times more than I have, and I can guarantee it was at a net loss for them. All you have to do is sign up for a rg to make it like you made some 💵.

    I personally have always wanted to compete against the best. I would rather finish top 100 with the best  than win in the minor leagues. What is wrong with that? I don't think a title makes a person a better player. So why care what what someone does to get the title they want. They are having fun with a "game".

    For myself  I may never win against the best, but I think the world needs Rocco Mediate, Paul Goydos, Chris DiMarco and the likes. Sometimes it's fun to take the Tigers the distance, even if it's just to get slaughtered in the end. #my2centsworth

  • VinnyGoombotz
    411 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 9:23 AM

    it doesnot matter how many new courses or tiers we have ,as there are now 4 teirs with the same tee distance .wgt has to cocentrate on putting I or even 2  more tees for the upper tiers or come up with a solution as handcaps or winds,or lower shot clock to adjust for the poor legends ,which now have to compete against 3 greater tiers with the same tee distance.

  • Tamsach
    2,823 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 9:54 AM

    Good move WGT. I played the course yesterday with some technical trouble, but today for the second time the play was smooth and very pleasant. I liked it very much, it's funny and I love all those differences in altitude. It was already my favourite CCTH. Tks, bye

  • kavvz
    2,195 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 9:57 AM

    lonniescott711:

    Robert1893:

    kavvz:
    Surely, you realize that given enough time (probably won't take that long), that TC will just be C by another name.

    Exactly! 

    Come come now , lets not act like this is anything new . We have all seen this before with the other new tier additions . By this coming June or July the crying will start and come the next virtual open , it will be in full mass . The top players will always dominate the game no matter the tier .

    The Red Tee Bandits will steal their way into the tier as usual and then cry , because they cant compete . Others will actually play their way in and wont be able to compete as well . So until WGT actually create a true tier that can only be reached by certain conditions this problem will remain .

     As I stated earlier if they would take the top 200 - 250 earners and then add the top 100 every year after , problem solved .

    No one's pretending here Lonnie and yes, the best players will always be the best.  That's why many have suggested a separation between them and the 95% that aren't and won't ever get there. 

    Players who achieved their status via red tee tourney's shouldn't bother anyone, they are only hurting themselves -- if and only if they have visions of playing in VT or tier opens and placing well.  Many don't care.  Someone who has a 49 avg. via red tees doesn't bother me 1 bit; that's all that needs to be said.  It's their own fault given the current structure.

    What I'm wondering however is what are the reasons the structure is that way.  It is not because WGT doesn't listen, or because they are unwilling to change.

    It's likely something else.  Maybe the smart people at WGT determined its more profitable tied to avg. and # of ranked rounds.  Maybe given the current software, it's very difficult to change that and not worth the money it'll cost make those changes to the software.  Maybe it's because they have to cater to the entire world, not the very select few who post here and would like to complete/have a chance in a VT once in a while.  Any of those are good reasons that make sense to me.

    There's reason(s); just wondering if they could be shared that's all. 

  • gerrylangan
    65 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 10:11 AM

    Delighted to see Wolf Creek added, but Personally I have never had any issues since Top Golf took over until now, 

    Out of 8 games I  froze in 3 and when I rebooted was not given the opportunity to resume or forfeit 

    In 2 of the other games 2 out of 4 finished and no one quit .

    Ended up alone in a 3 ball against Players I play ofet I know are not quitters.

    But apart from that tried playing 18 on my own today had to re log in after every hole ,I gave up after the 6th .

    Just tried another Course and all is fine with that, but I will not dare attempt Wolf Creek for a very long time.

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Fri, Dec 21 2018 12:06 PM

    gerrylangan:
    I will not dare attempt Wolf Creek for a very long time.

    Before you give up, clear your cache and try again. The initial release was Bug Central for a lot of players and WGT fessed up that their servers were stressed. A couple of shut downs later it seems to be OK. You might have some corrupt course files from that server issue and clearing that cache will get you new ones.

    The course is worth it.  :-)

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