el3n1:
Shows how they fail to account for all the scenarios in which a bogey glitch effects outcomes, despite the incorrect terminology of triple bogies versus 3 separate bogies being applied.
The bogey bug can happen at the start of a round, where 3 separate bogies are given or after 1 or 2 holes or before your birdie or eagle putt on the last hole. The impact of 1 bogie that erases an eagle or birdie on 1 hole can be a 2 or 3 shot swing despite showing 1 bogie on the card. Are they really so myopic that they fail to see the full scope of how it impacts the entire event? 1 bogie can alter an outcome but 3 bogies almost always does.
By only looking at triple bogies they are ignoring countless examples that still happen.
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@magiceire
3 bogeys isn’t always what happens though, I just posted about a single bogey given, have seen others get the same, will also sometimes just make you replay all 3 which can be good or bad I guess depending on how original 3 were going, I would say from a sampling of one that it seems to have improved over last few months though
WGT Nico — Yesterday at 00:19
probably a good 95% of complaints of showdown is the 3 bogeys so it's the best way to determine these stats
Lol, Please don't start calling 3 consecutive bogeys triple bogeys, three double bogies in a row, a triple double bogie? (Actually, that wouldn't be as bad as it doesn't already have a clear meaning in golf).
As to the 95%, it has the look of an off-hand comment to me (I'm not saying it is, just how it looks to me) and I'd agree that it seems far too high. The number of complaints of three bogies will be higher as a % of how often it happens as it is almost certain (above rookie qualifying) to affect your chances. One or two bogies that don't make a difference to the outcome probably aren't reported although I get what you're saying that sometimes they really do matter.
If they really are counting this by picking up where there are three consecutive bogies there would be all sorts of complications, they would need to make sure the first of them was on hole 1, 4, 7 (10,13, or 16) for instance.
Nico also said:
WGT Nico — Yesterday at 00:26
and I'm sure if we tracked even just the normal bogeys in a showdown it would still be an incredibly small number
That is obviously dependent on what you think of as an incredibly small number, but I would say it's not right.
I checked my qualifying league; 41 players finished under par, 11 level and 47 over. The 41 amassed -150 between them, the 47 +276. Bearing in mind someone level or under is likely to have a bogey or two on their scorecard there must have been a lot of bogeys included here, more than birdies probably.
Then we have the ones that didn't make the top 50 can play again, I imagine there are plenty more bogeys there.
Already in my elimination group those over par combine to +166. The qualifying cut was level par it looks like being -1 here (in elimination) so not massively different but also 18 holes meaning birdies and bogies cancelling each other out more often.
There will be less bogeys in the more expensive showdowns, where there are better players and, for some, shorter tees but I think the majority play the rookie one.
It's hard to show the numbers playing each level, an indication can be gleamed looking at the number in "Paris" compared to the other three-hole rooms. As the numbers in the rooms is another of the ignored, for now, glitches, it's hard to do much with them.
el3n1: 1 % sounds like they are not investigating the issue properly. I know from my experience that is no where close to accurate.
A very small part of me worries they are counting triple bogies.