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Putting style

• roadruner150 29 Posts

  Thu, Nov 24 2011 1:09 PM

  When putting do you move the triangle for break, or do you miss the ding to left side or right side. Which putting style is the best? For me I dont move the triangle, I Miss left or right of the ding. So if putt is breaking left, I miss right of the ding. Vise versa for breaking putt left. Let the debate begin.

• paulshack 281 Posts

  Thu, Nov 24 2011 2:17 PM

  it all depends on the length and sppeed of the break for me.

  if within 6 ft i usualy just keep the marker at hole and miss to the side-

  but yeah, usually ill move the marker to where i think it should be, then miss to that side AS WELL. and usually turns out pretty damn good

• BubbaCrusher007 1,567 Posts

  Thu, Nov 24 2011 2:47 PM

  I don't hit a putt to miss it. I think you mean 'working' the putter right or left. Billy Mayfair cuts across the ball when putting for real on tour. I'm sure he's on putting to miss. I use both the arrow and the putter head on putts..like the poster before me, inside 8 ft it just hit it with fade or draw whatever required. Long putts that have radical break? I find i'm starting to move the arrow 'and' work the putter to fade or draw. idk lol If you 'ding' the club,,that's the sweet spot. Sometimes we just have to hit it to get the results needed, like arrow straight putts,,and even those, some will move that arrow and hit a fade or draw to make a straight putt,,because it's easier hit the miss for them, idk,, good question though and I hope someone has some good answers because I'm all ears on this subject.

• genorb 1,255 Posts

  Thu, Nov 24 2011 3:54 PM

  Well on rather short putt missing the ding on purpose could work but for putts beyond 8-10ft or so, I doubt it's an efficient method. Also sometime you have to move the aim by several blocks on the grid (large breaks and/or long putts). In those case, I doubt also that missing the ding is working well. So since there are situations where one have to move the aim, it's perhaps good to use the same method all the time to be systematic.

  Another point is that as soon as you miss the ding, forgiveness start to play. Forgiveness is a random process, sometime clubs forgive more, sometime less. So if you do 10 times the same putt (not a short one, but a 10+ ft), missing the ding at the same position, the trajectory of the ball will not be 10 times the same and thus you can miss some putt. But now if you do 10 times the same putts and ding them all, the trajectory will be essentially the same if your putter is accurate (precision) enough. 

  So the best to me, is to get the most accurate putter and try to ding it (thus moving the aim). Like this you get consistent trajectories and can better learn to putt. Missing the ding introduce a random process (forgiveness) which make the trajectory less consistent from 1 putt to another and it's thus harder to learn.

  Regards

• SOYEL1 698 Posts

  Thu, Nov 24 2011 9:18 PM

  Do agree with Genorb, though I have made some putts where I have missed the ding by pushing or pulling it. Hard to say though if it was the result of the forgiveness or simply that I aligned the arrow incorrectly and the fact that I missed the din helped. There are putts that you miss the ding and you get them and others that you ding them and go strangely out for no reason(it seems)..

• tillysurvey 3,098 Posts

  Sun, Nov 27 2011 1:43 PM

  My problem is hitting the ding - I wish I could do it 100% of the time like some posters suggest you can :) - I tend to miss the ding more than I make it ......

  My problem at the moment, is missing so many putts that hit the cup and kick out.....

  Usually have about 3-4 per round.....

  Guess it is down to the ding, but I darn wish I could ding on demand - lol

• Ihatecheats 298 Posts

  Mon, Nov 28 2011 3:37 AM

  Moving the triangle is the way to do it on the putting greens. I never knew that you could move the triangle on the greens until after I became Legend and I read the FAQ's, DOH.

  Playing freehand will only get you so far but in certain situations on hill lies it is  nearly impossible to get it in the hole, as if you hit it left or right of the ding line there is the chance that you hit too early or late and the putt moves 3 inches at most. More often than not side hill putts will almost always come up short or break too early on hill lies.Increasing the caddy putter distance  will usually lead to more extreme misses. I wish I learned to move the triangle at the start of my playing and maybe I could have holed more putts.

  My best round was at St. A front 9 with a 28, two eagles, 6 birdies and a double bogey were in that round and I'm positive if I had learned to putt with the triangle that score would have been lower. I have tried learning with the use of the triangle but had to give it up as the scores I began to hit on the green would make a starter hack blush.

• Ecka65 245 Posts

  Mon, Nov 28 2011 4:22 AM

  I have long been mystified by this "miss the ding" putting.  How in hell do you get consistency on medium length putts?  What happens when, like Genorb pointed out, "forgiveness" kicks in?

  There's only one advantage I can think of for "miss the ding" putting over aim putting:  The miss the ding putter doesn't know when the game is screwing them and saves on frustration.

  From hard experience, the only way I got decent at putting - apart from a lot of practice - was to tape a distance meter broken down to the foot for the 3 lowest scales.  Once I could "exact" the pace, then the breaks started making a lot more sense.  The trade off though is as above.  You know the difference between a misread, and a bullcrap.  But I'd say with complete confidence that an aim putter will sink more putts from 15 ft or more out then a miss dinger.

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Mon, Nov 28 2011 4:48 AM

  Ecka65:

  I have long been mystified by this "miss the ding" putting.  How in hell do you get consistency on medium length putts?  What happens when, like Genorb pointed out, "forgiveness" kicks in?

  There's only one advantage I can think of for "miss the ding" putting over aim putting:  The miss the ding putter doesn't know when the game is screwing them and saves on frustration.

  From hard experience, the only way I got decent at putting - apart from a lot of practice - was to tape a distance meter broken down to the foot for the 3 lowest scales.  Once I could "exact" the pace, then the breaks started making a lot more sense.  The trade off though is as above.  You know the difference between a misread, and a bullcrap.  But I'd say with complete confidence that an aim putter will sink more putts from 15 ft or more out then a miss dinger.

  I have wondered the same thing - its the forgiveness factor that I can't understand with the 'miss the dingers', if you look at it the other way around take one of the perfectly flat greens at Cabo say ten foot out- if you ding your putt you'll hole the putt.  With club forgiveness you could also miss the ding slightly and still hole 40%? less percentage probably the more you miss the ding but its still there.

  If you reverse that when you're putting for a break and missing the ding, 40% of the time forgiveness will kick in and you'll miss your putt because it goes straight?

• Reaytj 114 Posts

  Mon, Nov 28 2011 4:53 AM

  roadruner150:

  When putting do you move the triangle for break, or do you miss the ding to left side or right side. Which putting style is the best? For me I dont move the triangle, I Miss left or right of the ding. So if putt is breaking left, I miss right of the ding. Vise versa for breaking putt left. Let the debate begin.

  I use the rossa putter and I've had great success using the " miss left or right of the ding " ...very dependable.., and that is for putts up to 25 ft or so.

  However for longer distances AND with much practice using the high level Cleveland 64 degree wedge and callaway "s" ball with full backspin, I use the full wedge shot on the green. The distance your ball travels is very dependable and eliminates wild breaks to the hole. Your ball will usually bounce once or twice and stop on a dime. My practice finds you can use the wedge mentioned up to 80 feet, which would be a full power shot for that distance.