Oddly enough this hole played almost identically to the first hole on Oakmont when I was a TM. Pretty much had that hole dialed in back then. Now, phatt, forget it, the ball goes where it want's and it never want's to get close to the hole. At least for me. So I'm with you YJ,
YankeeJim: I've given up trying to play it like a normal hole and now just miss to aim, take the par and occasional birdie, and move on. Frustrating. :(
However, I will try that minus 1 yd for 3 feet down trick, adjust for wind and see what happens. Couldn't be any worse than what it is now LOL.