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Wed, Dec 28 2011 12:20 PM (130 replies)
  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Sun, Dec 25 2011 5:09 AM

    Ever wonder how the Callaway people feel about their ball being represented as being only 2/3 as good as the Nike ball?

    I guess that is my fundamental difficulty with the Nike balls, and really with deeper thought, with WGT as a whole.  As I understand the sponsorship business, Nike is paying WGT for the advertising they get from WGT using a Nike ball.  Other than the cost of changing a few lines of code to the Nike specs, and a few more lines to put a 'swoosh' on the ball and a 'swoosh' banner whenever I mouse over the ball... does the Nike ball, or any ball, cost WGT any more to produce than the free starters?  How about clubs?  Does it cost WGT $30 more to produce the R-11 irons than the free starter irons?  $20?  $5?  No.  If at all, those cost pennies more to produce in this virtual world, a cost that should be more than offset by the sponsorship dollars.

    So, in the end, after much thought, I just decided that $1.50 each was too much to spend on pretend golf balls that cost the company that produces them no extra money to speak of, and $30 too much to spend on pretend irons that cost the company that produces them no extra money to speak of.  Really, I had already decided that $1.00 each was too much to spend on pretend golf balls and downgraded from the Cally i(z) to the i(s).  I guess my conscience will allow $0.83 for pretend golf balls.

    I suppose if I had money to burn I'd feel differently.

  • LeonDelBosque
    1,551 Posts
    Sun, Dec 25 2011 11:28 AM

    JaLaBar:
    Ever wonder how the Callaway people feel about their ball being represented as being only 2/3 as good as the Nike ball?

    I figure that it has to do with their contract ... maybe Callaways could be the best for one year, or whatever. The ball companies probably set the price too. Also seems to me like Nike is trying to compete with Titliest Pro V1's; Srixon's more of a ball for the average joe (lots more of those IRL than scratch golfers) and Callaways are somewhere in the middle.  

  • mnshiner
    1,382 Posts
    Sun, Dec 25 2011 11:43 AM

    LeonDelBosque:

    JaLaBar:
    Ever wonder how the Callaway people feel about their ball being represented as being only 2/3 as good as the Nike ball?

    I figure that it has to do with their contract ... maybe Callaways could be the best for one year, or whatever. The ball companies probably set the price too. Also seems to me like Nike is trying to compete with Titliest Pro V1's; Srixon's more of a ball for the average joe (lots more of those IRL than scratch golfers) and Callaways are somewhere in the middle.  

    So what your thinking is that after the Calloway contract runs out so do the balls here. Please say it ain't so! The Calloway(is) ball is great for the virtual price and I am now to the point knowing what the distances are for each club using different spin, etc.

  • Sanco
    1,345 Posts
    Sun, Dec 25 2011 12:05 PM

    TaterNater:

    it's simple really.. wgt has to figure ways to make the elites credit hoards vanish so they will have to actually deposit money into their site... bottom line is they are only makin money when some1 deposits money... the 1's who live on here are the 1's who play and win all of the rg's ... therefore they have a stockpile built up, which means they live off another man's coin... that man which probably isnt here anymore  mind u....therefore no revenue is comin in....... it seems wgt's tactic is to try and put a dent if only a small 1 in the credit hoarders stash....they know  small fish so to speak wont be able to use them but they know the bigger 1's will .... just an observation but pretty close im sure....

     

    Quite an accurate and shrewd argument there taternater, and I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    I see one small snag there for WGT -- the suckers like me that have poured, and I mean poured the credits that enabled the top echelon players to make that little backlog of credits are now dwindling due to this very aggressive type of approach. What will happen?

    The only way to make this a more affordable game to all, and thus a better revenue for WGT, is to implement a monthly fee for all players.  Could be a staircased fee for example where one chooses the type of balls he/she wants to use that particular month and pays accordingly.  Of course that fee can be paid with existing credits thus achieving the second objective.

     

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 5:35 AM

    Richard4168:
    The Cardinals are already heavily favored to win the 2012 pennant as well.

    Not sure where that came from.  The Cardinals are one of about 8-9 teams that have pennant aspirations for next season in the NL, and I have not seen one (non-St. Louis) publication name StL the favorite.  Of course, last year's top 2 regular season teams have big question marks.  In Philly, an aging team gets older and Howard's injury puts a big ? at first, but they still should have the best pitching in the NL.  The Brewers are still up in the air with their first base situation and Ryan Braun's situation.  After that, no one knows how the Cardinals will react to losing Pujols and LaRussa, but it seems a healthy Wainwright and the adddition of Beltran may make up for the loss of Pujols, at least in WAR (Wins Above Replacement).  Who knows how the Braves will react to their collapse last year?  Will the Marlins' big splashes make them a contender?  Can the Giants rebound behind their own formidable pitching staff?  Can the Dodgers parlay the best hitter and pitcher in the League into contention?  Will the Diamondbacks play over their heads again?  And what about the Nationals?  Strasburg, Zimmerman, and now Gonzalez make up a very strong top of the rotation, Clippard (did you know he led all of baseball, including position players, in WAR last year?) and Storen a strong end game, and with Bryce Harper on the horizon, their offense should be improved this year.  Will they contend?

    The National League looks set up for a wild one next year, but I don't see the Cardinals as being the favorite any more than any of these other teams.  The big factor right now, the big unanswered question is "Where does Prince Fielder land?", because he could make the difference for any of these teams, including the one is he presumed to be leaving.

    Right now, presuming Fielder leaves the Brewers and not presuming where he ends up, I think the Phillies' pitching is too strong in the East, I think the Cards win in the Central, and I think San Fran rebounds to win the West.  After that?  Braves, Nationals, Brewers, Marlins, D-Backs, and Dodgers all will be scrambling for the wild card (or wild cards, depending on the outcome of post-season expansion talks).  The loser in all of this?  The Mets, who's top-end payroll looks destined for the bottom of the NL East for the foreseeable future.

    /end OT

  • swannyxx
    303 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 6:02 AM

    LeonDelBosque:

    JaLaBar:
    Ever wonder how the Callaway people feel about their ball being represented as being only 2/3 as good as the Nike ball?

    I figure that it has to do with their contract ... maybe Callaways could be the best for one year, or whatever. The ball companies probably set the price too. Also seems to me like Nike is trying to compete with Titliest Pro V1's; Srixon's more of a ball for the average joe (lots more of those IRL than scratch golfers) and Callaways are somewhere in the middle.  

    Maybe the more ad money you fork over the better the product.Just a thought.

     

     

  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 9:19 AM

    JaLaBar... will you be doing a rundown of the American League, too?  Just please be kind to the hapless Mariners.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 9:21 AM

    Doublemochaman:
    Just please be kind to the hapless Mariners.

    The same hapless Mariners looking at Prince Fielder to help King Felix?

  • AGArgent
    343 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 12:28 PM

    Oooh god, Cards heavily favored? Really? Never woulda thought that. Not after losing both their established star and manager. But placing stock in pre-season picks? Never do it. Who was heavily favored last year? And I'm one of the Card fanatics who will have a very hard time forgiving Pujols. If there was anybody left in the game that had an old-fashioned integrity and loyalty and wouldn't go for the obscenely greedy money grab, I was sure it was him. 100% sure.  If it was anything at all old-fashioned, it was old-fashioned betrayal.

  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Mon, Dec 26 2011 12:38 PM

    YankeeJim... just as long as the Yankees stop salivating over and coveting Felix...

    :)

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